TOPIC -
DATE - 19:33:13 5/15/99
FROM - trelaway
On the heels of a major bust of a marijuana grow operation last week,
Parksville RCMP
have announced a new task force to stem the tide of the illegal substance.
On Wednesday, police seized some 700 plants and about $3,000 in
equipment from a
commercial premises in Errington rented specifically for the purpose of
growing the illicit
weed.
The same day, local police announced the formation of an "intensive
enforcement initiative
to combat illegal marijuana production and distribution within the area."
Police say the unit was formed in response to "several violent incidents"
recently
perpetrated in the community involving individuals associated with the
local
drug trade.
In the first month of operation, police report 20 search warrants were
executed. Grow
operations that were discovered ranged from one light bulb in a shed to
a
complex
underground bunker with 10 rooms and 60 lights.
More than 4,000 plants were seized during those searches, along with some
$150,000 in
sophisticated growing equipment.
Police say more busts may be coming soon as their investigations continue.
As well, the
detachment stressed that local law enforcement officers are working with
a
federal Crown
prosecutor in Nanaimo to seek severe penalties where a commercial
operation can be
proved or where children have been endangered.
So far, the new unit, dubbed the "green team" has led to criminal charges
against 20
people, chiefly for possession and trafficking of marijuana, as well as
charges of possession
of stolen property and theft of electrical power.
According to police, grow operations in the area generally involve rented
buildings
converted to the cause of pot production.
In many instances, hydro-electric power is stolen by by-passing meter
systems, or
illegitimate occupants simply disappear before paying their bills.
Damage to these buildings is common, and police report that some of the
rented houses
have burned to the ground.
"Investigators were especially upset that in come cases small children
were
living virtually
surrounded by growing marijuana, chemicals and unsafe high voltage
lighting with open
wires," says a report from the Parksville RCMP detachment.
TOPIC - busts
DATE - 19:12:49 5/15/99
FROM - trelaway
I heard it on, I think, the Q on friday but it may have been CBC 1.
TOPIC - ph
DATE - 15:45:37 5/15/99
FROM - ben
my tap is 150 ppm the low ph is from fox farm 3tbs per gal
TOPIC -
DATE - 14:48:11 5/15/99
FROM - oldtimer1
Vic and Budm you have mail. Ot1
TOPIC - busts
DATE - 13:54:04 5/15/99
FROM - Vic High
Trelaway - I've been listening to the Q for abitthis morning but haven't
heard
anything yet. Thanks for the headsup. In the last wave of busts, the whole
lower island was affected over a few days. I hope Duncan and Victoria aren't
next. Frenchie, hope all is well with you if you are lurking.
Occam - pi is having trouble posting and asked me to pass on a message
that he tried emailing you again.
Blazer, those are just plain old romberry above. A more complete
explanaition is down below.
TOPIC - The pic up top?
DATE - 12:47:51 5/15/99
FROM - Blazer
Hey fellas, anyone now what strains are up there? Most look identicle to
My
AK47! WOOHOO that 1 plant gets My rocks off hard! The total package IMO;)
Thats the only plant I've ever gotten from A'dam that's a keeper out of
many.
WE have made the best strains I've ever seen in N.America and they are
free! Screw the tourist A'dam weeds IMO;)
Blaze out
TOPIC - Sub
DATE - 12:44:07 5/15/99
FROM - Blazer
I've had wonderful luck w.o pvc or the pepper shaker config.. Nestaa was
the
1 that brought this to Me months ago and Az, Rhu, NL, IMGC, Nestaa and
I
are all using the method I described. The butane will travel thru 1 hole
easily
as it's under pressure, it'll blow thru 1 hole as well as it will many
IMO. I just
loved the coffee filter idea the most as it made My oil the cleanest yet.
IMGC
and I met in Texas a couple weeks back and combined our techniques w/
His knowledge of making oil in the old days, I like Our plan the best.
But just
like growing, I bet there are a few diff. ways to achieve the same results.
The
hardest part IMO is finding affordable containers of butane. I found 300
ml
bottles for 6$ while the cannucks are buying 4 packs of 8oz. botlles for
under
10$! I dont get that at all! BTW they have found it in Ontario and BC at
those
prices for You in Canada. I emptied the HW(the only 1 I found that had
it in
bigger sizes!) store of all they had and they havent restocked any yet.
I'm
looking into My welding supply connections to see about BIG cylinders at
wholesale prices. I'll let Ya's know what I find.
Peace Folks, Blazer
TOPIC - nanaimo busts
DATE - 10:52:19 5/15/99
FROM - trelaway
I heard they got like fifty growers with a task force set up to tarket
indoor
growers?
Just a bunch of people stealing hydro again?
TOPIC - BC
DATE - 09:52:23 5/15/99
FROM - Ash
I love THC
TOPIC - Pan Red
DATE - 09:00:48 5/15/99
FROM - Budm
Hi All, Well if any one is following the story of the one PR seedling that
germed out of the 10 beans that were attempted, he/she is at about 1 month
old 12" tall and 7 nodes, the distance between node 3 and 4 is about 5"'s,
its
starting IMO to show satavia traits, and it also has a unique feature,
running
almost the entire lentgh of the stem from node 2 to the top are dark red
stripes. Ive decided to cross this one with Nevs Haze, as my friend in
Panama has indicated that at years end there will be mare PR seeds
avaiable, thus the concern of this being a once-in-a-lifetime chance, to
breed
a set of real PR seeds will have another chance.
Nico- Best of Luck, Ive worked with MicroSofts "Front Page" wysiwys program
(what you see is what you get) for building web sites, and its very easy.
MSofts web site sells a trial version of it for about 8$us, so if its not
what you
want, no big expenditure done. And its just point and click, no HTML skills
needeed. And the whole Msoft website was developed with Front Page, and
it looks great, Ive seen many Front Page developed sites, that look as
if a
HTML artist costing big$$$ built it, good stuff. HTH
KQ- I was able to decrypt OTs email, but im having a problem with yours,
Ill
figure it out today and mail ya.
Have a great weekend all, and stay safe
Peace
TOPIC - Aust/NZ site ..
DATE - 06:47:08 5/15/99
FROM - Nico
Vic , do you think you could give me a little insite into setting up a
page like
you have ? *** Email me Aussies and Kiwi's , we'll get this shit 'a movin'..
all I
have is time at the moment .
180 ,
Many States of Australia are decriminalized and large scale grows (outdoor)
are big in both countries.
Indoor is pretty big too .. Hydroponics in Australia is getting bigger
, though
NZ hasn't court up yet..
Thanks for the info ...
anyone that can help me with my task at hand .. email me at the above
address...
TOPIC -
DATE - 04:44:27 5/15/99
FROM - subcool
i'd suggest gloves for the static electricity.
i also i'm interested in BC give me the scoop
sub
TOPIC -
DATE - 04:35:43 5/15/99
FROM - subcool
so blazz would one hole at the bottom of the cylinder be better than the
peper config?
i'm going to try this today
i'm using 1-1/4 pvc thats 18" long
????
sub
TOPIC - Moving to BC
DATE - 00:34:37 5/15/99
FROM - ^~^Probert^~^
Is it worth it to move to B.C. to get involved. Im looking to move in the
the next
year and it its either. Northern cali, B.C. or amsterdam. please respond.
Thank you all
TOPIC -
DATE - 23:46:26 5/14/99
FROM - spectro_
ben your pHup is likely to be KOH(potassium hydroxide),or some other metal
hydroxide.sounds like you added 650 ppm potassium to your reservoir.if
i
remember right, K and Ca have an antagonistic relationship,whereas an
overdose of K would limit your plants Ca uptake.it may also affect other
nutrients,if its way out of balance.pH of 4?is your ppm sky-hi?
TOPIC - ph
DATE - 21:14:24 5/14/99
FROM - Homer
Ben try to calibrate your pen
4 is very low ph for domestic water
TOPIC - ph
DATE - 21:09:11 5/14/99
FROM - ben
i have had to add ph up to bring ph up from 4 to 6.8 and i want to know
how
much ppm of up is to much of the up.was at 1100 took me up to 1750
TOPIC - what a great site
DATE - 20:41:14 5/14/99
FROM - Homer
Hi all ..this is gotta be the best site i have found..
keep it up.
TOPIC - Vic, NICO, Honey Oil
DATE - 19:46:08 5/14/99
FROM - Blazer
Vic Hey Amigo! Nice site;) I gave up on all the boards, but I like this
1. May
have to check it out more often, I see it's pretty "civilized" for the
web;)
NICO Great seeing You out and looking to learn! I was reading all the replies
to Your questions, all are great. There are several ways to grow this fine
plant and get what You want, You just need to find the 1 that suits YOU
the
best. It sounds like 180 and I think exactly the same on lighting, lamp
choice,
and when to use which bulb in flower etc(except He likes playing w/ poop
of
all kinds to grow in;).. Using the MH in 1st few weeks of flower seems
to
keep the stretch down better than a HPS by far IMO. I also switch to the
940
conversions 180 uses, I think they are the shit! But they are awful
exspensive. Your gonna have it made w/ all these Gents here to help You,
but sadly You'll have to pay Your "dues"(fuck up a crop or 2, lol) untill
1 gets it
down good IMO. I know My 1st yields sucked hard, I spent a full year just
fine
tuning a system b4 getting it predictable and reliable. I know several
of these
Men in here stumbled along w/ Me at the same time. I know You like Your
engineering so I'll draft up a diagram of the hybrid system I preffer to
use.
Some think it's crazy, but I think thiers are too. Like I said, soo many
ways to
achieve nice results... Just more fucking time huh? LOL BTW don't fuck
around w/ buying small lights, get a couple 1K's from the beginning so
You
don't have to look for a way to pawn them off later to buy 1K's then. I
think
that's 1 more thing most of Us here have in common, extra 400's and 250's
collecting dust!
Well I think I've babbled long enough. Great to see some of the names in
here I havent chatted w/ in a long time. Sure am glad sub's here to keep
someone from getting gasses to death w/ furnace fumes etc., He knows that
shit WELL fellas, listen.
OH Ya! I forgot about our playing w/ the butane trick over the last few
months!
I never used any pvc. I preffer 32 oz. Gatorade bottles to soak the weed
in.
Then I have a 2nd bottle full standing by to pour the butane thru again
before
boiling it off. This way I can see the leaf as it soaks allowing Me to
save on
butane, only use enough to get it all wet. Then I collect all the solvent
from
the small hole in the bottles lid I used to fill it w/ by tipping it over
a mason jar.
Oh You gotta put a small hole in the shoulder of the bottle too as a vent
hole
for filling. I use a coffee filter inbetween the plastic bottle and jar
to keep the
veggie matter out completly. Then I pour the contents into a cake pan and
cover it w/ another to catch the condensation from the boil. The pans allow
for greater surface area resulting in a much faster boil and a easier surface
to scrape the oil out of IMO. This has given Us the cleanest Oil I've seen
in
tens years or more and it's all from compost! That part just kills Me,
LOL. I've
been using a little grain alchohol trying to thin the oil to a more user
friendly
product and getting it ALL collected from whatever it evaps. off into.
Collecting
the oil is the biggest/hardest part of the whole process IMO. I've yet
to get a
vial full, I'm lazy and take it from the pan as needed.
WOW I'm windy tonight! I'm really done this time. Peace Folks, Blazer
TOPIC - butane extaction
DATE - 16:48:57 5/14/99
FROM - drA
tried this last night and got about enough to smear on a joint. excellent
quality, it had the same taste and smell as the stuff i've made with solvents
that aren't explosive.
yield will be better on the next shot, i drilled too many holes in the
"pepper
shaker" and they were too big, so by the time i shot the second can in,
the
pressure was forcing the liquid butane out the bottom. i think i will try
a slight
modification in order to maximize the time that the butane spends in the
pipe, by sealing one end with an end cap, shooting the butane in through
the
cap with the single hole, then removing that cap and replacing it with
the
pepper shaker and turning the whole apparatus upside down.
in a well-ventilated area, of course.
i'm a little worried about static electricity, though, i noticed that it's
easily
generated by handling the pvc pipe.
any suggestions on how to ground myself so i don't make a spark and
explode?
TOPIC - 90% efficiency furnaces
DATE - 09:24:50 5/14/99
FROM - subcool
i have a bacharack co tester and even a proper vented water jeater puts
off
100 pmm before flue pipe warms up and creates draft.
the only flue gas i would even concider is 905% condensing furnaces these
are vented with pvc pipe and are very clean burning but seems aweful risky
to me.
fuel oil boiler/furnace use differant grades of oil according to distributor
32 oil
is some nasty shit and no telling what is in its exhuast gas. just please
be
careful also the pressure of the room seems important is it positive in
pascals or negative?
anyway
sup 180 ;0
sub
TOPIC - Flue gases
DATE - 09:11:14 5/14/99
FROM - occam
Commercial greenhouses often use CO2 derived from flue gases. However,
special stack scrubbers are used that separate CO2 from the noxious
gases.
Some fuels have a high sulfur content, which can lead to sulphur dioxide
in
the flue gas.
As has been pointed out, improper combustion is usually due to inadequate
oxygen supply. Other causes can be dirty nozzles, off-center fires, delayed
ignition, or pulsating fuel pressure.
Although using flue gas as a CO2 source in a greenhouse run may make
economic sense, using it in the place you live is not a smart move.
TOPIC -
DATE - 07:20:12 5/14/99
FROM - Vic High
67ED - ya need to check the archives here and at can.com, this has been
covered several times. I don't grow outside, period. All my plants are
induced
to flower at 12 hours so there is no way of seeing which ones will trigger
sooner.
Also, they are suprises meaning that they are variable. Don't expenct two
plants to behave the same. I suspect some may work and some won't. You
are the one that is growing outdoors down there so how about you try it
and
report to us how you made out :) I only have a small indoor garden up here
in
Canada and can only report on my obseravtions here.
TOPIC - hehe
DATE - 04:51:34 5/14/99
FROM - 180
hi subcool!
TOPIC - nico, subcool
DATE - 04:50:26 5/14/99
FROM - 180
nico, greetings and salutations :-) i know your bro.
you're right about the need for oz/nz-oriented weed sites.
do you have any idea what the state of affairs is in your country, with
regard to
medical marijuana? i imagine this could become a "personal project" for
you
(unfortunately).
the agrosun MS bulb is a good product. they now come in two colors, classic
and gold. gold is the newer, redder lamp. the gold's light still looks
like MH,
but it is quite "warm". it's the nicest balanced light for a single bulb
setup.
rather expensive, though: $100 US apiece. another drawback is the short
lifespan of MH lamps.
if you wish to use two lamps, you can choose either 1hps+1mh, or two
"enhanced spectrum" MS lamps. the 2MS setup will produce the
best-balanced lighting, even with the addition of a mover. however, the
1mh+1hps combination may be cheaper. i DO NOT recommend buying
more ballasts and lamps in lower wattages, unless you want the flexibility
that it would provide (with more lamps you could create more, smaller
spaces, for various projects). ballasts and reflectors are expensive and
take
up space. another thing to consider is the possibility of using MS for
the first
1/2 of flowering, then switching to an HPS conversion lamp (940w, runs
with
1k MH ballast)...
2 x 1000 should be fine for a 5x10, better with a rail-type mover. keep
in mind
that the ACTUAL floor footprint of your plants in the grow will be more
like
4'x9', because of need for air circulation, etc.
there ARE some aussie companies producing hydroponic products, and
there definitely is a HUGE population of stoners, but they are "below the
horizon" on the www. at one time there was a very nice website belonging
to
"the High Society", with alot of information for growers...i don't know
if they are
still in existence.
good luck with your grow (and the rest!) 8-)
peace
TOPIC -
DATE - 02:59:55 5/14/99
FROM - oldtimer1
Welcome Nico nice to see you out and about on the boards I'll let blaze
know
your here. Hope you two had a high high birthday back a bit hehe. If you
want
get my emey addy from your bro and I'll help with any specific probs I
can ok!
Joker as far as natural gas boilers [furnaces] are concerned any of the
old
type with a conventional flue and that take air from the room they are
in do not
combust completely, every year nearly 10,000 people die from leakage of
incompletely combusted products! Apart from that CO2 alone can kill
mammals quite quickly and plants more slowly. Because conventional flue
boilers and fires are so dangerous they are being phased out for domestic
use in Europe and only room sealed appliances are now approved. Of these
only the forced air balanced fan flue type come anywhere near complete
combustion.
All the best Ot1.
TOPIC -
DATE - 23:17:12 5/13/99
FROM - 67ed
Hello all!
Vic,,do you have an idea when Romulan Surprise would finish outdoors, a
little below the 40th.
TOPIC -
DATE - 19:33:16 5/13/99
FROM - Vic High
Nico - good to see you up and at em. Heard so much about you that I almost
feel as if I know you :) You should get a Australia/New Zealand page going.
It's actually pretty easy to set up and run once you get going. There is
already
three of you on this page that I know of, and that's not counting the lurkers,
haha.
Combining MH/HPS is the norm for those local growers with the resources.
The MH keeps the plant healthy and produces UV for added potency. HPS
makes the flowers bigger. Normal ratio is 2HPS:1MH but I imagine 1:1 is
fine as well. Our UK friend here uses the efficient combo of the 600W HPS
and 400W MH
Area illuminated by 1000w bulb will vary depending on strain and how the
light is applied. Some strains need more light than others. Also, it depends
on if you are growing for production or whether you want to create those
photogenic colas. A moving light can cover more area than a stationary
light.
A light on a suncircle can outperform a light on a track or rail.
I looked into the agrosuns when they came out but they weren't locally
available. Suppliers said that was because they were all hype. Well A-1
swears by them so maybe the local suppliers were just speading shit since
they didn't carry them. What finally appeared on the local scene was the
sunmaster warm deluxe by Venture lighting. It seems to do the job well
and
is an MH with added red spectrum.
Joker - your spelling gives you away. Feeling left out? - Anyway, One read
of
Stiny's question and one would know that this guy should not be playing
aound manipulating his furnace. He doesn't even know that plant need O2
not CO2 st night. Second, he makes no mention of the type of furnace used.
Ot refers to an old smelly boiler, subcool is an HVAC dude, you assume
natural gas. These are very different types of furnaces. In these parts,
older
homes (very popular amongst growers) are predominately heated by an oil
furnace. Many of these are older oil furnaces and it is common knowledge
that a new gas or oil furnace is far more efficient than the old oil furnaces.
What do you think makes the new furnaces more efficient? Maybe that they
burn the fuel more completely? The old furnaces are not considered clean
burning, this means that the exhaust contains more than CO2 and H20. You
think that extra stuff in the exhaust is safe? Please explain.
BTW -no need to hide behind your anon name. You will be treated with more
respect if you use your known alias anyway.
TOPIC -
DATE - 19:01:48 5/13/99
FROM - trelaway
Nico-in a room you plan to bud in I'd say you need at least 2000 lumens
/
sq.ft.----3000 would be preferred.
A 1k hps puts out around 130,000 lumens, MH about 115,000
TOPIC -
DATE - 15:59:37 5/13/99
FROM - Nico
Hey Vic ! I thought I'd just come and check out your site that my bro put
me on
to (Mirage) and to ask a few questions....
1... someone mentioned before (down the list of posts) about the use of
MH
lighting in bud, has anyone used both 1000wHPS and 1000wMH ? can you
tell the difference ?
2...What if you had 1x 1000wMH and 4X400wHPS to provide a large amount
of both the spectrums needed ? Has anyone tried this ?
3.. Can someone give me the specs on the Agrosun 1000w bulb.. I have
heard that it's Red spectrum output is more than a normal metal Halide...
4.. Any recommendations on good lighting coverage for 10ft X 5ft room ?
Is it
true a 1000w MH/HPS covers 2.5m2 well ?
Blaze ~ Do you frequent this page ? Need to know how to grow some good
stuff ! I think there needs to be a Aust/NZ growers page as well! most
of us
are secret smokers and with dope being decriminalized in alot of the
Australian States , we need a group!
TOPIC - my two cents
DATE - 13:39:49 5/13/99
FROM - spectro_
its not so black and white..here`s the balanced chemical equation for the
"complete" combustion of Methane.
CH4(methane)+ 2 O2------->CO2 + 2 H20 + 803kJ(the energy)
but..CO,and other carbon compounds are byproducts of an incomplete
burn.Does anyone think a furnace is supplying enough oxygen to give a
textbook clean,complete burn?i doubt it.tip:use your furnace ducts for
an
exhaust:not an intake.spectro
TOPIC - Dr E
DATE - 10:41:46 5/13/99
FROM - Budm
Hi all dr e heres a better addy(sometimes). Sorry for OTP.
TOPIC - Vick High and his buddies
DATE - 09:34:30 5/13/99
FROM - Joker
DUde, furnaces exhaust is CO2(carbon dioxide) and H2O (water)
That is what natural gas is turned into when it is combusted.
Any CO produced is TRACE amounts. If that were not true then we would die
when we cooked food.
I know alot of people who use this method but it must be done correctly.
You
still need ventilation.
TOPIC - Romulan sprouts
DATE - 08:47:37 5/13/99
FROM - Old Bud
I planted 11 romulan seeds about 12 days ago, all 11 sprouted (lucky) but
there is something odd happening to them. The stem root is curling up so
the sprout looks like an upside down question mark? and some have done
a complete 180 and begun poking out of the ground. Will the plants grow
out
of this stage? Could this be my fault? the chronic beans I started at the
same time are normal enough looking and in the same medium (coco
coir)with 1/3 strength nutes.
Thanks
TOPIC -
DATE - 08:11:38 5/13/99
FROM - greenbear
We will overcome!!!!!!!
TOPIC - Carbon Monoxide and stuff
DATE - 05:20:16 5/13/99
FROM - Subcool
A: From A HVAC guy trust me don't vent your boiler,heater, or any fuel
burning
appliance into the same space humans are.
I heard that A-1 went down another warrior eats the drug war assfucking.
:(
If I can help let me know.
Hey vic good to see ya.
Sub
TOPIC - Budm
DATE - 22:04:07 5/12/99
FROM - Dr. Evil
Budm, Still having trouble getting through. Mail sent to the "across the
pond"
address keep bouncing back. Would you mind sending me one to respond
to at the same old address? Apparently the 'net gods are not smiling on
me.
Must be time to sacrifice a goat or something :)
Be safe
Dr. Evil
BTW , sorry about the wasted bandwidth
TOPIC - stinky
DATE - 17:27:59 5/12/99
FROM - Vic High
Stinky - are you fucking with us or what? Like OT says, it's a dangerous
game to play. Your question also illustrates your lack of understanding
basic
plant biology. Therefore I say, learn to walk before trying anything dangerous.
Learn what makes you plants tick before trying to manipulate them. That
way
your manipulations can at least be in the right direction :)
TOPIC - CO
DATE - 12:00:58 5/12/99
FROM - oldtimer1
stinky boiler fumes contain CO as well as CO2 and is as near toxic to plants
as to you just don't do it.
KQ I'll look. Ot1.
TOPIC - KQ
DATE - 10:57:12 5/12/99
FROM - Budm
I was exp the same prolblems, today they seem to be up and ok. sorry for
the OTP.
Peace
TOPIC -
DATE - 10:43:28 5/12/99
FROM - KQ
Oldtimer, dear friend, you have email!
TOPIC - Co2
DATE - 10:27:46 5/12/99
FROM - Stinky
VIC HIGH
would it benefit my girls if i piped a little exhaust from my furnace into
my
room??
the furnace only comes on 3-4 times a night.
is this ok when the girls are sleeping??
TOPIC - 3.141592654...
DATE - 07:44:02 5/12/99
FROM - occam
Pi...no email yet; try it again if possible...thanks.
Apologies for the "off-topics", Vic.
TOPIC - Hash oil
DATE - 06:44:03 5/12/99
FROM - Rons
Amendment to yesterday's post. The Ronson torch cannister will not
discharge without the torch head. To use the 2.5 oz lighter refills and
keep
Pi's proportions of butane to shake, use 13 inches of 1" (I.D.) pipe.
TOPIC - outdoor grow/ozone effects.
DATE - 00:51:24 5/12/99
FROM - peaceness
hi guys , i have lurked for many months now and have got to "know" many
of
you. I have also had the plaeasure of meting a few of the regulars and
getting high with them.I am planning to do an outdoor grow this year and
was looking for some advice. I am currently growing romberry, g13, nlxsk1,
some ncga strains, and a few of the commercial strains. I also grow indoor.
today i went out to the mountaious forest close to my home and found a
very
good spot. the problems i have are:
1. how big of a hole should i dig if planting 6" clones? how tall will
they get by
harvest in order to support roots. i was planning on using 5 gallon pots
submerged in soil but think that might be too small.i plan on putting 6"
clones out doors within this week.
2. when i water plants, should i adjust ph outdoors as i do indoors. this
would require me taking ph up and down, along with my hanna ph meter in
the field(which is not a problem).
3. i am also growing indoors and am using an ozone generator (uvon 5000
sq ft) what types of effects does ozone cause? it is currently hooked up
to be
exhauled with the exhaust.
i have many more questions but will post them later. thanks guys, this
forum
has been extremely helpful towards my ongoing education of the
herb-Peaceness
TOPIC - Budm::::::::::
DATE - 22:42:23 5/11/99
FROM - KQ
I havent been able to access freemail for some reason--wont let me login!
TOPIC - air cooled
DATE - 21:55:27 5/11/99
FROM - old hand
i don't get this air cooled lights having glass covers,with the glass removed
it
should have better air flow,and run cooler.is the glass just for radient
heat
block,that sounds cold, if i'm a plant looking for energy from light.use
a
thermometer and see,not your skin,rays and heat too different things.uv
wear
your sunglases,every bulbs likely different,as any experiment plants will
be
your guide.thanks to irish for calming my fears of ingesting harmful
substances
TOPIC - cool observation
DATE - 19:22:07 5/11/99
FROM - Budm
Hi all, Today af was checking out 4 Kalimist females that are at day 43
of
flower closely, and about 10% of the pistills are lavender/violet in color,
on
one of the ladies, she seems to be absoulty thriving, and really putting
on
size this week, never saw that before ;-)
ed- please email me, lost your addy. Thanks.
Peace
TOPIC -
DATE - 18:43:37 5/11/99
FROM - trelaway
niner-I have a 600w in my one bedroom apartment with a small 100w clone
chamber. To make it real looking I rented a place with a washer/dryer and
dishwasher.
The lites add about 17$ cdn to my bill of ~ $80/mth. I also have elec heat.
TOPIC - electric bills
DATE - 16:12:49 5/11/99
FROM - Niner
I'm planning to grow indoors using a 15 plant hydro system and a 400W Son
Agro Hps light. I am moving into an appartment soon, and will start growing
then. Should I be worried about my electric bills? How easy is it to get
busted? Thanks in advance for any information you can give me.
TOPIC - lambert green formula
DATE - 15:15:40 5/11/99
FROM - edhassle
Has anyone had any experience using this soiless mix?I went to my local
garden center to get a bale of pro-mix and they stopped carrying it.They
have
this lambert green formula mix made in quebec it looks like the same
ingredients as pro-mix.I was thinking of only using it on a few test plants
until
I know its safe to use in vics super soil mix.
TOPIC -
DATE - 15:09:43 5/11/99
FROM - no one
just a proxy check. please delete after...
TOPIC - Shu Groz
DATE - 11:18:45 5/11/99
FROM - Snowman
Lower the pH of the solution you water with...pretty easy eh? [|:')
TOPIC - FAQ
DATE - 10:28:28 5/11/99
FROM - Lilow
Is there a faq for this msg board.
TOPIC - Honey Oil
DATE - 10:25:34 5/11/99
FROM - Rons
Some times people use the names Propane and Butane interchangeably.
They are different products with Butane producing a hotter flame and easier
ignition. In the states I use a butane tourch to melt gold for jewlery
casting.
It's made by Ronson (the lighter people) and the refills came in 16 oz.
cans.
TOPIC - lower ph
DATE - 07:43:12 5/11/99
FROM - shu groz
my girls are i week into flower..potted in soiless..how can i lower the
ph while
in this stage?
TOPIC - hash oil
DATE - 18:34:28 5/10/99
FROM - drA
sb, many thanks for the tip! i have been unable to process the leaf using
my
favorite solvent (methylene chloride) due to a broken condensing tube in
the
still. the darn things are $150 and i would rather put that towards a light
and
get going on the indoor thing.
pi, yes it's me, we all need someplace to call home now, don't we?
heeheehee. i'm glad you thought to put that recipe here.
mg, thanks for the cd, me and mrs doc love jazz
TOPIC -
DATE - 17:44:43 5/10/99
FROM - Vic High
Budm - man do I read you loud and clear. I too love to tinker and try new
things. Problem is that I get distracted and try more than one thing at
a time
and then in the end I don't know what affected what, haha. Also, there
are so
many factors that can affect yield from crop to crop that one attempt of
something really isn't enough. But playing is more fun than being scientific,
haha. Without playing, how would we learn?
I wasn't intimately involved in that garden so don't know all the details.
They
were from clones. I remember there was a screwup in veg so it took longer
than buddy would have liked, but can't remeber what that was. Flower was
9
weeks, picture was at 7 weeks about. Just after the picture was taken,
an
odour leak freaked out buddy and he panicked and flooded flower room with
eye watering amounts of ozone. It heavily burn't the plants and stunted
growth. He also fought with powdery mildew right to the end. Canopy was
too
dense to effectively control the mildew. CO2 was used at the start of flower
and it's effects were underestimated resulting in the overgrown canopy.
Budm, it's hard to give an exact setting for the ozone. What is safe is
where
you can't smell the plants or the ozone. I slight sea breeze smell is ok
as
long as it isn't too overpowering.
TOPIC -
DATE - 14:44:05 5/10/99
FROM - KQ
Budm, you need nothing more than PGP. P-Idaho or JBNimble is not
needed. You could post your public key here by launching PGP keys from
your task bar, select your key, right click for properties, and "copy"--this
puts
your public key on your clipboard, then just paste it here if it's okay
with Vic. I
will then add your key to my ring and send you a short message via email
and tell you how to decrypt it. Come to think of it, just send me your
key via
email.
TOPIC - PGP/ sorry 2x post, I forgot this
DATE - 10:15:31 5/10/99
FROM - Budm
OT1 or KQ,
Ive d-loaded PGP from MIT, and generated a "key set" and sent one to the
key server. Now I need a little more help
I know some sort of "front end" s-ware is needed,like P-Idaho or JBNimble.
This is where im at and need help. Do I need to buy this software, or can
id
be found on the www in a trial or cost free version? Thanks ;-))
TOPIC - BCGA Gardner
DATE - 10:06:11 5/10/99
FROM - Budm
Hi all,
Vic even though the yield was comprimised by Ozone?
at 100 gallons of SSoil and 80ozs of yield, IMO thats still very good.
Can you
tell us about were they from clones or seedlings, and how long was each
period of Veg and Flower.As im also considering a small ozone device,
because allthough I like variety,Romberry I feel is a excellent strain
that offers
a great yield without quality comprimise, but the ozone is a requirement,
what is the best setting for a 20sqft closet, that the grow utilizes half
of that
space? Id just like to know where to start the output out.
Does any one see any merit in using 3 liter soda bottles, for a complet
veg-flower grow, from seed if the veg is about 40 days, no topping, no
co2,af
is trying a couple of bottles now with Romb x Af1 and a Shiske x BigPlum,
to
see how it works out. But any advice, would be great. TIA
pi- been using acetone(100%), with Ok results, if the trim is to fresh
how ever
the terpines and the chlorphyll are present, and the quality shows poor,
im
thankfull for your post, and next month will post the results of a small
trial.
Stinky- afoafs first grow utilized the SSoil, and although, they were
augmented with a light organic fert every week(BioBlend) it was not
nessesary, the reson the fert was used was the SSoil was not allowed to
age for any real time, and af thought that it might be nessasary, but the
Veg
cycle is prob wher fert might be nessesary, by the time
12/12 starts, IMO the soil is working and the additives are leaching there
nutes to the roots.Ive played with some of the fert "toys" like blossom
blood
additive, kelp extract,fish emulision, etc, and Ive come to the conclusion
to
keep it simple, is better, give em what they need in the soil, and water,
period, saves money and headaches;-)) Unfourtantly im a hard head when
it
comes to learning, and I love to tinker. I knew when I found BCGA's site,
just
prior to the first grow, I said heres a suscessful "blueprint" especially
considering the genetics that were picked for the first grow(Romberry),
and
its really a rflection on my own stubborness, not to just follow the pros,
but
thats usually the case for me in things like this. Im just happy I only
tried to
improve on things, instead of trying to re-invent them, good thing I wasnot
taking up skydiving;-))
The one thing that continues to look IMO to be a good
thing to use in addition to the SSoil is Kelp extract or MaxiCrop in 12/12.
A
controlled test is really needed to confirm this. Man I wish af had more
room,
10 sqft is nothing when you love to tinker, but then again Id prob be saying
the same thing in time, even with 10x that space.
sb- Thanks for confirming what I was considering, about the Ronson refill
cans.
Peace
TOPIC -
DATE - 07:13:02 5/10/99
FROM - Vic High
Stinky - yes just water from start to finish.
mg - all I can offer from first hand experience is that it is better to
harvest at
the beginning of the day rather than the end of the day. And also using
MH
with your lighting will increase potency. The rest I haven't done because
I had
always used a perpetual harvest system, so extended darkness wouldn't
work
However alot of the local old pros advocate leaving the lights out prior
to
harvest for up to 48 hours I believe. These are the same old pros that
kept
telling me to ignore all the HPS hype and always have MH during flowering.
Use both if you can, that's best, but if you have to choose only one, pick
MH.
I've slowly come to realize that they are right with the MH, therefore
I figure
there may be something to the extended dark period.
Say, remember that broken 400 optimarc that I wrote about a couple of
months back? Well I'm thinking of using it as a UV source during my next
flowering period. My main lighting will be aircooled (I expect heat to
be a big
problem) but I'm worried that the glass cover will reduce UV output. Thinking
of having the broken bulb lit for maybe 3 half hour bursts through each
day
period. any thoughts?
oh yeah, MG please don't feel reluctant reporting on those fine genetics
(BG
and NCGA) you are working with. I think many hear would like to hear the
reports on them. Reports on any strain is welcome. I'm just trying to avoid
obvious spamming and generic seed bank questions. Cannabis.com has a
great page for that, hehe.
TOPIC - long nights during flowering
DATE - 22:48:44 5/09/99
FROM - m.g.
vic, i've seen a few details scattered around the net about extending the
nights during the final faze of flowering. i have some approaching week
9
with most having 60% +/- hairs turning and glands JUST beginning to cloud
over. i'd like to try the method on half of the ones i have duplicates
of
(finishing nc7, tnr x ww, g13nl x bw, p75, and aunt j) along with a few
others
that are singles. would you mind giving me the rundown on the method? it's
very close to harvest now and figure (hoping) there still may be time to
try
something different which i can/will report on. all the plants mentioned
above
are very similar in growth and overall appearance so i think they will
be good
test subjects.
all else are welcome to advise also if you've had experience with dark
time
extension.
sorry to bring in another's product but it's all i have in flower at the
moment
and you got me interested in trying out a new trick.
BUT...the next harvest will be a mostly bcga harvest. had great germination
with the durban, champagne, romulan surprises along with the romberry.
planted 8 of each and all but one is growing well, especially the rom.
surprise. those are double the size of the rest of the bcga produce and
others planted at the same time. the only one being weird is a champagne
that refuses to start adult leaves. 4 weeks old and still has the baby
leaves...but 4" tall and nice and green...and i'm patient enough to wait
for the
little retard...hehehe
pi...thanks much for that oil recipe. it will be used very soon!
TIA...m.g.
TOPIC - soil
DATE - 22:09:39 5/09/99
FROM - Stinky
Vic High..
soil soil mixture sounds good
do tou feed with this mix or just water??
TOPIC - new pic
DATE - 19:53:33 5/09/99
FROM - Vic High
Here's a picture of a BCGrower's garden near harvest. Plants are two
romberries, a typical tall one and an atypical short stocky one. The colas
of
the tall one on the right had to be bent over to the left to keep them
growing
past the light in a sorta scrog (actually you can only see the colas of
the plant
on the right). The tall plant out yielded the short plant by about 3 times.
Garden was 6 by 9 and was lit by 2000w (1 HPS hortilux, 1 sunmaster warm
deluxe MH) for a light intensity of 37 watts/ft. The tall plant was under
the
sunmaster. There were 10 plants in 10 gal pots of the Vic mix. Ozone
overdose (future pic) and powdery mildew knocked yield down to just over
5
lbs.
If all you see is the old image all twisted out of shape, then you need
to
reload the image. You do this in netscape by placing your mouse pointer
over the image and clicking the right mouse button. Then select reload.
TOPIC - thanx vicbhigh
DATE - 18:47:32 5/09/99
FROM - stinky
ill give it a try
TOPIC - overfert
DATE - 18:38:13 5/09/99
FROM - Vic High
Stinky, slow down on your feedings. You are probably over feeding and may
be getting a salt buildup. May be a good time to give your plants a flush.
TOPIC - dried leaves
DATE - 17:40:38 5/09/99
FROM - stinky
i need some help .....
my room is 1 week into bud and im having quite a lot of dried and spotted
leaves appearing at the lower part of the plant.i have no visible pests
or
mold .
plant are in 2 gal pots and are fed every second day. they are growing
beutifully but theese dry spotted leaves are driving me nuts ...anybody
help????
TOPIC - DrA
DATE - 17:31:52 5/09/99
FROM - sb
I couldn't find the 8oz camp stove bottles.Instead I opted for 3 (2.5oz)
bottles
which are available as lighter refills everywhere.
A 1/8" hole in the top allows you to insert tip and press downward until
the
can is empty....
TOPIC - DrA / occum
DATE - 16:35:55 5/09/99
FROM - pi
drA>>i have not done it yet. i suspect you will have to improvise or find
the
type dispenser that uses a flex tube .
sorry. are u the same DrA i know and love? hehehe
occum>> message to ya!
TOPIC - hash oil
DATE - 16:14:57 5/09/99
FROM - drA
pi, that is by far the easiest method i've ever seen!! how do you get the
butane from the can into the pipe? you can't just punch a hole in it, can
you?
my camp stove screws on to one of those cans and punches a hole in it as
you turn it, did you use a similiar setup? eme with details or post here,
i've
got a few bags of leaf that i can't wait to run through it!
TOPIC - pvc and butane
DATE - 03:09:38 5/09/99
FROM - irish
rated as marginal or conditional , depending on application.
other better materials are :
nylon,unplasticized nylon, acetal, kynar, polypropylene, buna-n (rubber)
epdm (another rubber material), viton
you can most likely find what you need in any industrial plumbing house
(suggested materials: the nylon or polypropylene, most common. usually
white and black, respectively)
the pvc will be fine, due to the fact that it is not containing the fluid
for a long
period of time. there is ample ventilation, and very little pressure.
TOPIC - Romberry Surprise
DATE - 23:23:23 5/08/99
FROM - Maudib
Hi,
On recently receiving my Romberry surprises I germinated 5/5. Four are
indica looking but there is one that is looking very sativa. I was just
wondering if anyone has any knowledge as to whether the RBS were more
likely to be fathered by the Durban or the Peruvian. On reading Shiva's
post I
am less inclined to let the peruvian grow out but very interested in a
Durban
cross.
Thanks in advance!
TOPIC - honey im home
DATE - 23:09:06 5/08/99
FROM - old hand
I see a slight problem,butane solvent might pick up things from pvc.a harder
plastic might be better or some other material?anyone know?what are
lighters made out of?thank you pi
TOPIC - honey I'm oil (or something)
DATE - 21:06:58 5/08/99
FROM - sb
Trelaway
I tried that extraction method this afternoon....
BEAUTIFUL !
You're in for a treat!
peace
sb
TOPIC - Peruvian trial
DATE - 20:01:45 5/08/99
FROM - Shiva
I got some of the Peruvian seeds also and had so-so results ... the resulting
buzz wasn't all that for the length of time it flowered ... I thought a
Peruvian
might be a faster to flower sativa but that was not the case. I didn't
keep the
Peruvian around after the first round of 12/12. It wasn't that bad of a
plant, if I
had an outdoor garden it would be cool to have around but not inside.
TOPIC -
DATE - 18:55:34 5/08/99
FROM - trelaway
Thanx Pi, good timing--I'm probably going to be able to try this in june.
TOPIC - hey honey
DATE - 16:53:13 5/08/99
FROM - pi
Hope you do not mind Vic!!!
I didn't innovate this, I'm just spreadin' the good news.
--------------------------------------------
The Boffo Butane-PVC Hash Oil Extractor: Trash leaf to honey oil in minutes
by Indra
For those of us who never quite got over the loss when fine-quality hash
oil
disappeared from the market, and for cannabis connoisseurs of all ages
everywhere, it would be my honor to write up what has to be the easiest,
highest-yielding and most selective cannabis oil extraction method available
to date. This method has its basis in a fascinating industrial extraction
method known as Supercritical Fluid Extraction. It uses totally
over-the-counter butane gas (8 oz can, camping supply store, ~US$4.50)
as
the extraction solvent, and requires nothing even remotely suspicious or
difficult to purchase. The only other thing needed is about $2.00 worth
of PVC
pipe: a
section 1.5 (one and a half) feet long and 1 & 3/4" diameter (outer
diameter I
believe), and two end caps. Threaded PVC is not necessary.
For reasons not yet clear to those of us investigating these things
"unofficially," butane and CO2 (and perhaps other gas/solvents with similar
ultra-low-boiling properties) selectively solvate the desirable fraction(s)
of
cannabis oils, pulling out only a beautiful amber "honey oil" and leaving
the
undesirable vegetative oils, waxes, chlorophyll, etc. behind in the plant
matter. Even unsmokable shade leaves produce a wonderfully clean and
potent gold oil with this method. I have every reason to suspect that this
would work splendidly to extract a super-strong and tasty oil from gross,
unpalatable "schwag" commercial pot too, and of course, the better grade
of
herb you put it in, the better the resulting oil.
METHOD:
1) In one of the PVC end caps, drill a single small hole in the center.
This
hole should be correctly sized to snugly receive the little outlet nozzle
of your
butane can.
2) In the other end cap, drill a group of 5 or 6 small holes clustered
in the
center (like a pepper shaker).
3) After putting a piece of paper towel or coffee filter inside it for
filtration, put
the end cap with several holes on one end of the pipe. Push it on there
real
tight. This is the bottom.
4) Fill the pipe up with plant matter that has been pulverized into a coarse
powder. You want it filled, but not packed down. (Full pipe estimated at
1.5 oz
capacity, but this is a guess. I did not weigh it.)
5) Place the top end cap on the pipe. Again, push it on as securely as
you
can by hand.
6a) Find a location outdoors with a decent breeze. You want these butane
fumes to be quickly carried away. Seriously.
6b) Mount the pipe (single hole-side up) over a vessel that can hold 300mL+.
Beakers are perfect. A lab stand and clamp are ideal for the mounting,
but a
regular shop clamp or anything that can hold it sturdily is fine. (Avoid
metal if
you can, to reduce the chance of sparks.) Position the bottom end of the
pipe
immediately over (1-2") the receiving
vessel to eliminate splatter loss.
7) Turn the butane gas can upside down and dispense the gas into the pipe
via the single top hole. A whole 8-oz can takes about 10-12 seconds to
evacuate. Be brave, swift, and careful. A spark at this moment would spell
disaster since you have basically created an incendiary explosive device
that
is leaking.
8) When you've exhausted the can into the pipe, back off to a nice distance
and let it do its thing. The butane moves down the pipe, extracting the
cannabis as it goes. When
it gets to the bottom (~30 seconds after dispensing), it begins to drain
into
the receiving vessel. Notice the pale, glowing yellow-green-gold hue of
the
extract. It is obvious no chlorophyll was pulled out of the herb.
Over approximately five to eight minutes, the butane extract will finish
draining from the pipe to the receiving vessel. Maintain caution with the
pipe,
however, since there is a lot of residual butane still evaporating from
within
the pipe (notice the stream of fumes coming from the top hole). When it
slows down to a drop every few seconds, you can tap on the top hole with
your finger and it will help push the last of the liquid butane out (or
one can
gently blow into the top hole to do the same thing). Remember, NO
SMOKING, unless you wish to immolate yourself in grand fashion.
Being very low-boiling and volatile, the collected butane will likely begin
boiling at ambient temperature. The receiving vessel will gradually frost
up
as the butane cools it down, slowing down its rate of evaporation, but
you
can speed this up again simply by holding it in your hands. A better way
is to
set it in a saucepan containing a little bit of warm water. Watch the butane
start bubbling madly with the increase in temperature and marvel at its
low
boiling point. Again, be doing this outdoors with a nice breeze! It takes
about
20 minutes or so to allow the
butane to evaporate, or quicker if you help it along. You are left with
a deep
amber, almost orange oil of amazing purity.The best way to collect and
store
the oil is probably to let all of the butane evaporate off and then redissolve
the oil in some anhydrous or high-% alcohol, and then pour this into a
vial
and let it sit out for a day or two to allow the alcohol to evaporate.
Trying to
transfer the oil
into a small container while it is still solvated by the butane is too
risky. I
learned the hard way about this, thanks to the volatile temperament of
butane. I had filled a vial almost all the way to the top and was preparing
to
drop those last couple drops in, so that cleverly, I could let the last
of the
butane evaporate from the vial and the oil would all be neatly contained.
But
when the last drop hit the mother lode in the vial, it changed the temperature
of the solution in the vial upward by a hair and it all "superboiled" out
of the
vial and onto my fingers, which
of course startled me and caused me to drop the vial. I suggest dissolving
it
in alcohol as I mentioned above. If you can get pure or 99% isopropanol
(isopropyl), use it, because THC's photosensitivity reportedly does not
occur
in isopropanol.
The final product is a deep yellow-amber oil of the highest quality, incredibly
pure and potent. I remember well some of the prime "honey oil" hash oils
that hit the market in the late 1970s, and this stuff stands up to (if
not
exceeds) any of them. It's amazing how this method extracts only the good
fraction and leaves the junk in the weed. But that's
exactly what it does. Note also that this oil has a somewhat higher
melt/vaporization point than traditional hash oils; the traditional dispensing
method (dipping a needle or paper clip in, getting some goop on the end,
and warming it with a flame to get it to drip off into your bowl) still
works with
this stuff, but it seems you have to be more careful with it because it
doesn't
heat to liquid state as quickly or in the same manner, and it can more
easily
be allowed to burn up on your needle. So be careful.
Those who prefer a tincture-like preparation can of course thin the product
a
little with a bit of warm high-percentage alcohol like Everclear or
90-whatever-% isopropyl, then drop it onto buds or let a joint absorb some,
then let the alcohol evaporate. I also observed that unlike hash oil derived
from traditional methods, this product is not immediately soluable in
room-temp alcohol; it needed to be warmed before it dissolved fully. So
there
it is. Spread the word far and wide: honey oil is BACK!
TOPIC - pi
DATE - 12:06:45 5/08/99
FROM - occam
Hi pi, addie above.
TOPIC - sorry
DATE - 11:59:39 5/08/99
FROM - pi
http://www.wormpro.com/
pelitized
TOPIC - worm poop
DATE - 11:57:56 5/08/99
FROM - pi
here is a link for killlllller worm castings
cheap (i pay $11 for 25#)
no fillers
has been petitized
and they are looking for outlets
TOPIC - Orange Bud Harvest Report
DATE - 11:24:16 5/08/99
FROM - Old Bud
Finnished at 84 days, 85w/ft, 1.5oz/ft, co2 15-1800, a mix of mh to hps,
gh
nutes with pure blend and Allatoin.
Never did peak the nutes, stayed around 12-1400 ppm, added bud blaster
with allatoin last 4 weeks (1 tsp/5 gal). Although I did not like the taste
of the
WW with allatoin the Orange Bud is very nice, the citrus flavor is sweeter
and
less tangy and the high is very trippy (good concert weed). The OB I have
is
said to date 20years and is very sativa dominant 80%, the buds are rock
solid shaped kinda like a corn dog. I controled the extensive stretching
with
tomato netting and strings, the stock and side branches are very thin and
easy manipulate, not much manicuring needed at harvest.
On another note, I started some extra seeds last week, Chronic- serious,
Romulan- fed, via Adam cafe. Must have been my lucky day got 100% germ!
TOPIC - occam
DATE - 11:21:07 5/08/99
FROM - pi
do you have an eme ?
i need to holler at you for a minute. thnks
TOPIC - BUDM & thanks vic
DATE - 09:33:40 5/08/99
FROM - Damion
appreciate the peruvian info, now why can't peru come out w/ an indica
dom.
pure sativa :)
a shame
Budm, any word from Don/Patty on those old collectors items? Thanks,
Damion
TOPIC - Sunshine Mix
DATE - 09:05:55 5/08/99
FROM - occam
j....my results have been quite different. I've used S.Mix #1 & #4
many times,
no difference in results; #4 holds less water due to a higher aggregate
%,
and requires closer attention to irrigation/fertigation rates.
BTW, S.Mix is not soil, it's a peat/perlite soiless mix.
TOPIC -
DATE - 01:21:56 5/08/99
FROM - oldtimer1
Kenkeman could you get my email addy from Budm or 67ed and drop me a
line TIA.
terrytune I'm not sure what you were asking in your question, it had to
many
bits without a clear point to answer so I'm guessing that this is what
you
want. Cutting back a centre leader and revegging tends to lead to a crap
yield
and often going hermaphrodite. I would tend to take cuttings from the lower
branches they should be rooted in 2 weeks then put them under strong 24/0
hr light until the climate is ok for them to go out. It doesn't matter
if the
cuttings are small when planted out at this time they should make good
plants by September and you can just put out a lot more plants to fill
your
space. Of course this will only work if there is no ruderalis in your strain.
All the best. Ot1.
TOPIC - Red Devil
DATE - 23:24:02 5/07/99
FROM - 67ed
Kenkeman:
You'll need to do some special things to prevent Red Devil from flowering
too
soon. Even though it's a late indica, I'm afraid it would trigger into
flowering
as soon as it sprouts where you're at. If you shine a light on it for an
hour and
a half, sometime after sunset, that will prevent it from flowering. Any
kind of
light will do, even a 40 Watt incandescent, that's close to the plant.
Do this for
a month. After that, you let the natural photoperiod take over. If it were
me, I'd
keep it in a container during vegetation so I could move it around, then,
after
a month, plant it in the ground. I'll send you an e-mail sometime tomorrow.
TOPIC - terrytune
DATE - 21:20:06 5/07/99
FROM - Vic High
Terrytune - we are not here to kiss each other's asses, whether we are
from
BC or not. And I'm not going to attempt to answer all questions and in
doing
so dominate the board. Finally, I'm not an outdoor grower so your question
didn't interest me. That is not to say that there isn't any other people
who may
have been interested in your question. You question wasn't the first to
go
unanswered and it won't be the last. It just meant that no one was in the
position to answer it when it was asked. Take that to mean that you have
something to offer so go out and get the info and enlighten us.
As for this being a support bcga only board, try reading it again, you
need to
improve your understanding of the english language. Only posts to be
deleted are blatent troll posts or any generic seedbank posts attemping
to
turn this page into a seedbanks page. As for there being a clich? Well
hang
around and contribute something and your confusing questions will be
better received.
TOPIC - interesing news
DATE - 20:33:55 5/07/99
FROM - j
For all dirt farmers,discovered that sunshine #4 sucks.Retains to much
mineral salts and water.Did research useing excactly half plants with #4
mix
and 1 half with sunshine mix#1 .Sunshine #1 had twice the growth and yeild
as #4 .I thought i was just imagining things so i did it over 4 crops and
had
same results. Hope you'll find this helpfull.
TOPIC -
DATE - 18:59:16 5/07/99
FROM - TerryTune
Thanks Vic as far as I can see hell of an attempt General posting} I am
a
local fella BC who arived on this site thinking I struck gold . Finally
people
with the same thoughts and ubstructions as me. Growing{good} pot is not
easy. I have been going outside for many years now with success I have
been lucky and survived{only missed one mortage payment}Does anybodies
shit here stink as bad as mine I have posted here three times, to no avail,
I
feel shunned I am local {British Columbia } and my prelimanary vieu of
this
site was of people with the same mindset getting together and discussing
problems of what we do and technics to make it better.From what I can read
there appears to be a click here with your own strains and ideas on,and
only
feedback on your own strains. {oops im sorry getting ahead of myself} What
I
realy mean to say is we have the best in the world! by sharing information
among locals we can keep it that way .If a fellow BCer askes for advice
give it
to them {Foreigners your choice} lets keep it at home we get the best price.
My year is going now balls to the wind ,in planted, hope for the best,
cant turn
back. take care all could possibly post a question later in the summer.
no
maybe not I dont think it would be answered . remember ignorance is not
bliss
Terrytune
TOPIC - Red Devil from GreenHouse!
DATE - 12:38:26 5/07/99
FROM - Kenkeman
Thought I´d place an order with Heaven's Stairway. No one seems to
know
much about this plant. Or maybe someone does. The description sound
interesting and since I will be growind outdoors in the tropics the final
outcome should be nice...any info would be appreciated...
TOPIC - Hey Damion...
DATE - 12:16:28 5/07/99
FROM - shaggy
Thought I'd check if HempWorks' site was up and running...almost is! The
T.H.Seeds section is still not up and running, but at least we get a list
of
some current offerings...
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hemp/order.html
digit,
shaggy
TOPIC - BCGA Supersoil Mix Oudoor Suitability
DATE - 11:58:18 5/07/99
FROM - Irie Eye
I have been very successful with the BCGA supersoil mix indoors. I plan
to
have a small garden outdoors this summer and was wondering if anyone
had tried this mix outside. I am concerned that the blood and bone meal
might attract rodents. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
TOPIC -
DATE - 03:51:23 5/07/99
FROM - reposter
How to use Earth Juice
http://www.laughing-moon.com/forum/basics/messages/3654.html
TOPIC -
DATE - 18:52:03 5/06/99
FROM - Vic High
Damion - my light levels weren't high enough for the peruvian sativa. They
just kept flowering, and flowering, and flowering, and suddenly one day
strted to die. They never really "finished". High was good but didin't
feel done.
Bud looked like shit in my garden and was real loose and fluffy. Priorities
finally took over and the peruvian project has been shelved for the time
being. Oh yeah, germination was poor on the seeds I recieved but I don't
know if that was a genetic thing or a storage thing. I think this plant
has alot
of potential in the right location, my garden wasn't, haha.
Bud Bundy - I wouldn't waste the time and space on those confused males.
As for the confused girl, I would flower her, enjoy her bud and then say
good
bye. I would make backup clones of the "straight" girls only as someone
else here suggested.
stonerg - about a year ago there was a pretty good discussion at LM gen
indoor about EJ and it's acidity. A crazy electrician called A1 was a big
fan I
think and felt that in a soil that contains dolomite lime, the EJ acidity
wouldn't
be a problem as it would be buffered. The point was also made that
fluctuations of pH between waterings was probably a good thing. Different
nutes are more available at different pH's. I played with the EJ in 2 and
10
gal pots and found that the low pH was in fact buffered by my soil and
posed
little problem. However, recently I tried it again on smaller 5" (1-2 cups)
pots
with disasterous results. I guess there wasn't enough buffering action
in the
tiny pots. I prefer using Alaska fish ferts as an organic veg fert suppliment.
And for flower, I don't fertilize, I let the soil feed the plants.
TOPIC - Electric Savings
DATE - 18:19:57 5/06/99
FROM - Thunderheart
I just saw a pretty new little device over at Home Depot. It is a little
plug that
you put between your electric outlet and major appliances. It claims to
regulate the power going to your fridge and stuff, and will actually extend
the
life of these appliances because they run more efficiently. Your savings
would be in the reduced electric cost. This could be a good thing for those
of
us in the US, who have to worry about our electric bills and such. It claimed
to make the purchase price back in just a few months. You may want to
check it out.
TH
TOPIC - culling hermies
DATE - 17:44:33 5/06/99
FROM - drA
bundy, i guess it depends on your situation. i had some f2 durban last
year
that did the same thing outside. i culled one obvious male and let the
other
one go after clipping off the male flowers. no more male flowers appeared
and it produced quite a nice cola along with some nice side buds that i
took
for sampling. but i was dry because of a poor harvest the year before,
so....
irish, sorry, i have never grown nlxblueberry. im pretty much an outdoor
gardener and need fast finishers.
TOPIC -
DATE - 15:52:38 5/06/99
FROM - Niner
Thanks for the info Budm. Any other suggestions?
TOPIC - "earth juice"
DATE - 13:48:43 5/06/99
FROM - stonerg
Does anybody know anything about this product? It seems very quality,
guano/kelp type mix, but soooo acidic. How should I lower the pH? Hydrated
lime? So far its the perfect pH for my little rockwool cubes, but later...?
TOPIC - Shaggy-no problem
DATE - 10:49:08 5/06/99
FROM - Damion
I'll ask Adam your questions, and make the website suggestion.
Sagarmatha finally set up there own shop and they are no longer working
out
of the Hempworks. I'll be visiting both though. Can't wait to see what
color
Adams hair is this time :) he's too great!
TOPIC - Prolific flowering Roms and sage
DATE - 10:25:37 5/06/99
FROM - shaggy
High there Mr. Bundy (Damion keep reading),
So, you've got 4 prolifically flowering Guys do you? Hmmm...well, I guess
it
really depends on your personal feelings. I'm from the "kill all hermies"
school--mostly because I don't like the genetics spread through-out my
garden, making seeds, etc. Since I grow simply for my own personal
comsumption, I want the cleanest buds possible. A 430 watter is actually
a
lot of work--adding hermies to the mix just seems to make things more
difficult than they need to be. My advice--kill 'em now. I'm sure you can
find a
great mother out of that batch. I feel it's important to find her, clone
the crap
out of her and grow like the wind ;)-~.
Hey D, nice to see you. Yes, the low-light levels may have had something
to
do with it. I forgot about that. I've got about 40 ft2 in my little setup--not
too
much. Actually, the sickliness came from poor medium pH or something. My
other male sage looked fantastic. However, the L_O_N_G flowering period
and feathery floral clusters may be due to the light. I'm certainly not
putting
the Sage down--I feel that if treated right, she'd kick ass. It just may
not be
ideal for the personal-use, micro-system I use. If you're going over the
A'dam
soon (have a blast!) do me a big favor and ask Adam what his feelings are
about the sage--ferts, light-levels, etc. I'd love to hear what he has
to say.
Also, bug him to get that Hempworks web-site set-up! It's been "inthemix"
now for about a year.
Stay safe,
Digit,
shaggy
TOPIC - OOPs
DATE - 09:43:49 5/06/99
FROM - Bud Bundy
Guess I didn't hit STOP fast enough.... sorry for the double post.
TOPIC - I am STRUGGLING!!!!
DATE - 09:39:55 5/06/99
FROM - Bud Bundy
Shaggy
- please help....you mentioned the prolific flowering of a Romberry female
during veg. Did you cull this female, or keep it going? I have the same
problem with a plant from Romberry surprise. At 4 weeks, the plant showed
both male and female, but now, at 5.5 weeks, its only producing female
pistils, but ALOT of them. The male balls it produced are starting to have
pistils coming out of the same region. It looks like full bud set compared
to 2
other Fems that just have the two "preflowers." Any help you can give would
be greatly appreciated.
Also, I had 3 males, according to preflowers, set aside to collect the
pollen
later. After looking more closely, these males are developing female
preflowers on the upshoots from the main stem. So, I have 4 confused Rom
surprises, and of the 20 started, these 4 looked the most alike throughout
the grow period. They are very strong slightly reddish stemmed, with large,
wide, dark green foliage. They were always the most vigorous, and stretched
more than the others.
The area is 3.5 x 3.5 and is lit by 430 hps. Temp maxes out at 85, but
not
often, avg temp is prob 80. Never gets below 75.
I plan on switching them all to 12/12 on monday. Any advice would be greatly
appreciated.
Also, to whoever was wondering about using 2 and 3 liter bottles.... I
used 2l
bottles for th first 4 weeks, and I think they are great. You can see the
roots
and gauge if they are root bound. Also, when transplanting, you can squeeze
and move the shape of the bottle so that the roots and soil come out
completely in tact, with little to no stress whatsoever.
TOPIC - I am STRUGGLING!!!!
DATE - 09:38:07 5/06/99
FROM - Bud Bundy
Shaggy
- please help....you mentioned the prolific flowering of a Romberry female
during veg. Did you cull this female, or keep it going? I have the same
problem with a plant from Romberry surprise. At 4 weeks, the plant showed
both male and female, but now, at 5.5 weeks, its only producing female
pistils, but ALOT of them. The male balls it produced are starting to have
pistils coming out of the same region. It looks like full bud set compared
to 2
other Fems that just have the two "preflowers." Any help you can give would
be greatly appreciated.
Also, I had 3 males, according to preflowers, set aside to collect the
pollen
later. After looking more closely, these males are developing female
preflowers on the upshoots from the main stem. So, I have 4 confused Rom
surprises, and of the 20 started, these 4 looked the most alike throughout
the grow period. They are very strong slightly reddish stemmed, with large,
wide, dark green foliage. They were always the most vigorous, and stretched
more than the others.
The area is 3.5 x 3.5 and is lit by 430 hps. Temp maxes out at 85, but
not
often, avg temp is prob 80. Never gets below 75.
I plan on switching them all to 12/12 on monday. Any advice would be greatly
appreciated.
TOPIC - to vic high & reply to shaggy
DATE - 07:40:47 5/06/99
FROM - damion
vic, how did the peruvian sat. make out? flower time, yield, description
of
buzz would be great if you could.
shaggy, glad to see your still around and still working with Adam's SAGE.
Perhaps they appeared a little sickly because haze typically demands
mucho light?
goin back to adam in a few weeks so I'll post a report for all sometime
in
June. Hope it helps, Peace
TOPIC - Dr. A
DATE - 17:41:48 5/05/99
FROM - irish
would you mind looking down at the last post by irish.
very curious could be used to describe this situation. almost no info on
that
strain, and any input would be greatly appreciated. sorry vic for clogging
this
up. no spam intended. thanks in advance doctor.
TOPIC - gibb acid
DATE - 17:30:54 5/05/99
FROM - drA
budm, parts per million would be .000250, so what's on that label would
be
parts per billion if it's a percentage and parts per 10 million if it's
not, both of
which are a little ridiculous, the stuff sounds more potent than Sandoz
acid,
imagine one bottle being diluted among that number, that's a lot of bottles!
hehehehehe.
i've heard of gibb acid being used to produce %100 female offspring, but
for
increasing yield, i'd stick with pushing the plants with the proper nutrients
during each phase of their growth.
TOPIC - harvest report follow-up
DATE - 17:10:32 5/05/99
FROM - shaggy
Hey there Budm--and any other interested party...
To answer your question about the Sage--1 of the 2 was Female. She looked
sickly all grow, but snapped out of it just before flowering. She was very
very
haze influenced. The flowers grow in big, prickly masses. The pistils are
so
fat they're like needles. It really looks bizarre. However, the haze also
means
fluffier masses of flowers and a longer flowering period. I finally stopped
mine at 11 1/2 weeks. I'm sure it could have done better if given another
2
weeks or so. My real hope are my Cinderella88/sage seeds. Hopefully it
will
solidify the nugs while shortening the flowering period. Who knows?
And the high? Well, let me just say that whatever it was that I smoked
in
A'dam was the most devestating stuff I've ever touched. My sage has never
quite done the same, but last batch had a nice energetic up buzz. We'll
see
how this goes after a nice long cure. All in all, cindy is better, but
this is a
great one to have around for personal stash...
Digit,
shaggy
TOPIC - Dr. E
DATE - 13:10:32 5/05/99
FROM - Budm
Still no mail try again>
TOPIC - oh please....
DATE - 12:14:31 5/05/99
FROM - irish
my questions are for dr atomic...
any sort of info on the NLxBlueberry you could share?
need info on the essence of this "stabilized strains". times, smells, tips,
etc.
my friend will be trying these in an nft setup, 6" centers. 75w/sq ft -
111
wts/sq ft.
TOPIC -
DATE - 03:23:03 5/05/99
FROM - oldtimer1
Budm ~s is back in the driving seat at LM so WB is ok now. He has changed
the script slightly so regular posters names are protected.
All the best Ot1
TOPIC - Budm
DATE - 21:23:28 5/04/99
FROM - Dr. Evil
Budm, re-sent mail to old address "across the pond"
TOPIC - thanks
DATE - 18:00:17 5/04/99
FROM - Budm
Hi all,
Dr Atomic thanks for the directions to the page on the gibb/acid. My math
skills leave much to be desired, the
number percentages are correct that I posted, do they co-inside with the
correct ppm that is necessary? Id do a search at WB to figure out how to
apply and all, but we all know whats up with that.
Niner- af First grow was Romberry, and it could not have turned out better
considering, 3 plants under a 400 watt lamp, yielded just over 6ozs, veged
for 50 days flowered for 50-55 days, easy to grow, wonderfull to smoke.
Try it
youll love it.
KGB- I recieved your mail, I hope no one minds the note, nice report on
the
Cronic. Ill try to catch ya on ICQ.
Peace
TOPIC - would like to buy
DATE - 16:11:25 5/04/99
FROM - just
is it possible to buy
TOPIC - bud to veg
DATE - 15:56:02 5/04/99
FROM - terrytune
inside to outside indi sativa x clones i started the kids to early they
are into
hard core bud they are to short under a 1000 if i can get them back into
veg
they are excellent oudoor producers i could get up to 20 times whats on
them now they are at 15 and 9 now and i was considering cutting the kids
back to the bottom branches and bringing the light bach to 18and 6 then
putting them out first week of june mid van isl had frost this morning
everthing is a month late in the bush. any help on this matter of bringing
them back to veg would be greatly appreciated thanks
TOPIC - nice board/gibb acid
DATE - 15:50:49 5/04/99
FROM - dr.atomic
well, vic, i've been lurking long enough...nice board, i like the way you
run
it...it's good to see some familiar names.
i will have the opportunity to grow out some of your durban
surprise outdoors this year. i hope it finishes in time for me (lat 45),
any
thoughts?
budm, i don't think you'll have problems inducing hermies with that blossom
set stuff, check the link below for general info as well as guidelines
for
concentrations that produce the desired effects. i think the concentration
to
produce male flowers on female plants is between 100 and 250 ppm, which
is a several orders of magnitude greater than the concentrations you posted,
especially if they are indeed percentages.
Link: Gibberellic Acid Info
TOPIC - Whats Kind?
DATE - 14:22:08 5/04/99
FROM - Niner
I'm a first time grower and I'm using a 15 plant hydroponics system with
a
430W HPS San Agro lamp. I'm interested in growing buds that would be
considered "kind" not commercial. What "kind" should I grow?
TOPIC - ATTN Budm
DATE - 13:51:51 5/04/99
FROM - KGB
Hey Bud ń
KGB here. Sorry if this post is repeated. Thanks for the
message and sorry for the screw up on ICQ. I donít know why
the thing cut out but Iíve never experienced anything like
that before. I usually chat with AOL Instant Message
software, which is also a free download. If youíre
interested lemme know and Iíll send the URL.
As for the Chronic, Iím extremely impressed. All the claims
of high yield and potency seem to have been true; havenít
got the total weight of my grow yet cause the MONSTER colas
(two feet long x four inches thick) are still drying, but
the first three plants (which werenít the biggest) gave over
100 grams, which I consider a lot. The last three look like
theyíll weigh in even more. There is a bit of variance in
the strain. I saw two distinct phylotaxies/growth patterns
indicative of the Sativa/Indica mix: thick, luscious buds on
short plants, and thin, slightly fluffy buds on stretchy
tall plants. Nevertheless the result was excellent. The
high is half body, half mental and will lock you to your
couch for a long time. Iíd give it a 7.5 or 8 out of 10. I
posted about it about two weeks back on ADPC, so if you do a
search (not archived, however) of recent posts you might be
able to find it under "Chronic."
Iím really interested in WW, esp. the Peacemaker you
mentioned. Are there any reviews of it online? I also saw
raves on the BCGA board about Cinderella 99, which sounds
awesome. I should say that I prefer a heavy Indica plant,
short and dense with thick trichomes. Iím thinking now
about ordering some Romberry and the Cinderella.
Have you used the Positivegrow place? I checked their site
briefly but didnít see any seeds for sale. Might be in an
area that I didnít explore. Iím pretty faithful to Heavenís
Stairway though I know theyíre not cheap. They are really
honest and have a great selection though. Do you have any
of their Big Bud beans? Iíd like to trade some Chronic if
you do. I grew a clone of BB last year and it was
delicious!
The trim I usually give to a friend of mine whoís too wimpy
to smoke the budsÖafraid to get "too high" ;-). If youíve
got any of those WW beans lemme know.
- KGB
TOPIC - New Prods at Nusery/ Vic a Question
DATE - 13:47:46 5/04/99
FROM - Budm
Hi All, Well thaere is a nice nursery walking distance to my home, usually
there is not much there in the way of organics, but they have brought in
some
great products for the spring planting season. They have Bat Gauno 10-3-1
Castings in 2 gal containers the real good kind "Orcan Brand". But there
were some products that are new that I wanted to ask you guys how to use,
like Rock Phosphate 0-45-0 its granulated, can this be used as a top
dressing in flower? And I found a "Blossom Set Spray" that Ive never seen
before, its for tomatoes & peppers, up untill now the set-sprays ive
seen
have the active ingredent of "cytokin" this one has .0000240% Indolebutyric
Acid and .0000224%
Gibberellic Acid, now the manafacture (Ferti-lome) claims eariler harvests
and increse in yields for Toms & Pepers, but will this concentration
of Gib
Acid be enough to do the
male flower on female plant reaction? Vic? This is the first year they
decided
to sell organic soil amendments, and said they would increse with more
variety if it sells well, I like going to these nurserys to get ferts and
soil and
pots and stuff, its nice to see organics getting a foothold.
Chemo- Ive been to the island many times mon, its obivious by your very
nice
post, that the indicas are getting interbreed into the strains in Jamaica
now,
thanks to all of the european visitors bringing seeds, 10 years ago, anything
from jamaica would have streached big time, as 90%
of the island strains were pure sativas. I love the airport in Montego
Bay, you
cant even claim you baggage without 2-5 offers from airport dealers selling
the herb. if anybody ever needs travel advice on Jamaica, just ask ;-))
Peace
TOPIC - time to post again
DATE - 11:57:26 5/04/99
FROM - Chemo
High all
I haven't posted to any boards in ages. Some of you may remember me from
HempBC boards and IRC. I figured it was time to join in again and help
out
whenever I can.
I'll start by giving my latest harvest report
Harvest end of March:
Thai x Haze Skunk (Dutch Passion originals, my own cross)
Thai F2 "
Stawberry Blonde (Breeder Steve via Amsterdam coffee shop)
Jamaican (unknown genes direct from the Island)
All were very nice but different
out of 10 seeds of each (6 of thai x hs)
Had 6 thai fems
1 thai hs
4 Strawberry Blonde
3 Jamaican
Grown in rubbermaid buckets (11 liter) with bubbler in bottom for veg.
Under
160watts florescent
Took clones and sexed moms. Clones then put into 1000watt garden. Mh
first 2 weeks then hps after (sunblaster conversion hps to mh good
bulb).hydrocorn buckets with drip pureblend 3tbsp/gallon. SCROG system
used
PUreblend by itself is very tricky
Thai
typical thai taste. some hermes on 3-4 of 6 but had a high stress period
with
fert problems. varied 10-14 flowering time but all harvested at 12. Potency
exceptional on one and good to very good on others. very up. taste nice
spicy
to piney depending on plant. kept exceptional mom , taste isn't as good,
but
best yield and higest potency.
70g on one plant started at 9 - 12 inches flowering
thai x hs
one mom. best taste of all. tropical. potent not as stretchy as thai. finished
at
2.5 ft, thai up to 5 when straightened out.
Strawberry blonde
Hats off to breeder steve
all moms finished flowering at 10 weeks. 3 of 4 are very potent and probably
highest of crop. Nice taste but nothing extraordinary. finished at 2.5
feet.
lower yield on these though 20-30/ plant
Jamaican
nice smmooth musky fruity flavor. lowest yield down to 10-15/ plant. nice
up
high, but still relaxing. (thai is myuch more anxiety producing). have
crossed
with pollen from best thai male and will be cubing as well. I love the
overall
blend of this smoke but yield problematic. may do better if veged to 2-3
feet
as opposed to 1 foot, stretched very little.
Overall a very nice crop. I don't know if I'll try pureblend by itself
again. seems
to work better combined with gh.
if any questions my email is above
TOPIC - Budm you should have mail!
DATE - 07:56:29 5/04/99
FROM - Kenkeman
Sent you my thoughts yesterday. Hope you got them.
TOPIC - Dr E
DATE - 17:05:51 5/03/99
FROM - Budm
Dr E The mail did not show, please try again!
Peace
TOPIC -
DATE - 16:15:40 5/03/99
FROM - m.g.
budm, i recently received a dozen large clones brought up in plastic soda
bottles. they were packed fairly tight with vermiculite only surrounding
broken
up "grodan" cubes and all had a dense set of roots at one month. i did
notice
two holes in the bottom (for draining, i imagine as this guy doesn't do
hydro)
when i transplanted them into soil. so they seem to work great for rooting
clones. easy to remove for transplanting too.
TOPIC - Shaggy/h-report
DATE - 16:01:27 5/03/99
FROM - Budm
Hi All, Shaggy Great Report ! I was wondering a/b the Sage, Ive been
following you and Dr Ts repots at the WB, and you did not mention to much
about the 2 that were harvested, were they fussy to grow, and were the
two
uniform? Thanks for a great and humorous/honest report.
Any one grow in 2 or 3 liter soday bottles ? af is tinkering with a couple
of
diffrent layering of medium experments, any feedback would be great.
Stay Safe yall.
Peace
TOPIC - blue moonshine
DATE - 15:57:27 5/03/99
FROM - stonerg
nugs - I didn't report on it because 1)I only had three and that's hardly
representative 2) I know Vic doesn't want this to turn into a seedbank
board.
That said, I liked it a lot. It's mellow, wierd, trippy yet down to earth.
I crossed
it with my best NL female and so far, NL-BM smells like heaven. I'd say
it
smells like bubblegum, but I know there's a strain out there with that
name.
But that's just what it smells like (right now.)
So anyways, I found B.M. alot like the description; strong but don't get
it if you
want your ass kicked (it isn't that way.) However, if you like mellow,
different
stones, I highly recommend it. Yield pretty good; nugs too hard if such
a thing
exists, quick: takes about two months or so; sorry I'm too busy to get
terribly
scientific about it. (and as I grow in about 12 CUBIC feet, you don't want
my
numbers. I doubt anyone shares them.)
And these are only my experiences and current opinion. I reserve the right
to
change my mind, which I may. Oddly, I'm just not sure about the Blue
Moonshine, which is wierd because I have an opinion on all others. Going
to
start all B.M. beans soon (Moving to bigger local and I swear I'm starting
every bean in my possession when I get there (and I'm going totally
organic!)) and I'll know my opinion better then.
Blue moonshine wouldn't be my choice if I could only grow one strain. But
I'm
superstoked to have it.
TOPIC - Harvest Report
DATE - 10:57:35 5/03/99
FROM - shaggy
High everybody,
BTW, Vic, is this OK here? I figure everyone would like to see a harvest
report.
Well, well, well. I was going to post this over at the 'base, but...you
know.
Anyone know what the hell is going on? I just hope ~S~ is OK...
Ok, here we go. This may be a little long.
Seeds: Romberry, BCGA Blueberry, Cinder88, Greenhouse GWS, and Sage
(a Haze/Afghani hybrid from TH Seeds in A'dam). I lost one Rom seed in
transport--no worries.
Great germination on all--no problems except that the castings seemed to
attract fungus gnats which ate some of my emerging seedlings. all in all
nice
results.
Grown in castings, perlite, vermic, and cocofiber. I don't know why I use
the
cocofiber since I hand-water, but I dig the stuff. All toasted nicely under
an
air-cooled 430 Hydrofarm HPS.
I ended up with 20 seedlings--3 blueberry, 2 sage, 5GWS, 5 roms, and 5
cinders. I initially had some pH probs as I wasn't checking the pH of all
the
water I was using. Also, the dolomitic lime does take a couple of weeks
to
kick in--so plan accordingly. Maybe a little of the hydrated at the beginning?
As a result of the pH, things got a little funky, yellow and slow-growing.
Also, I
decided to use organics this time 1/2 way through--not a great choice,
but I
stick with my decision. Was yeild hurt? Hard to say but the girls have
an
aroma heretofore unmatched!
OK, getting ahead of myself...Of the 20, 8 were female--1 Sage, 2 GWS,
2
Cinder, 1 blueberry, and 2 Roms. Actually, I thought I had 3 Roms, but
one
had "sexual problems". No big deal. Watch your roms--and look for females
with prolific pre-flowering. Also, keep in mind that I like to veg for
a long
time--2 months min. This time I let them go 72 days. Actually, I wouldn't
have
done it if I didn't have those pH/slow growing probs--but everything worked
out in the end.
Each plant yeilded 1-2 z's each. Not bad for a tiny closet. Hell, that's
enough
to set me up for MONTHS!
Comments:Romberry's a peach. What a nice high--ya can't get that grin off
your face. The flavor's coming out as the cure progresses.
Gws: My wife's fave. Just a little to indica heaven--but not too lethargic.
Cinder: There's been a lot of talk about this strain. All I can say is
that I'm very
glad I grew this one. Fast, nice yeilds, great high. Harvested at 49
days--maybe even a little too long. While most really bite ya in the ass,
the
occassional bud out of my jar is simply wicked. I actually got lost a few
blocks from my house--shit that hasn't happened in 10 years.
All in all a big thumbs up to Vic and Soul. You guys couln't have done
any
better--although I'm really looking forward to future creations.
Soul--you said I'd love the Cinder and you were right! hope to see you
around
here.
I'd be happy to anwer any questions, etc.
Happy trails and thanks again Vic!
Digit,
shaggy
TOPIC - hey STONERG, how'd that blue moonshine end up?
DATE - 07:26:52 5/03/99
FROM - nugs
??????
TOPIC - Just a Quick hello to all!
DATE - 06:15:06 5/03/99
FROM - kenkeman
Hey folks, Just wanted to drop you guys a line and tell you that I am back
from abroad and ready to start working again. I will start my small forest
in
the Panamanian highlands within a couple of weeks. I will be growing
outdoors in a humid but cool spot with sunshine only part of the day. Does
anyone have any suggestions as to what might do well under these
conditions. Temp never goes above 75 or below 50. Thanks for any input.
Fumen motta y dejen vivir "smoke buds and let live"
later,
kenkeman
TOPIC - Budm
DATE - 17:39:15 5/02/99
FROM - Dr. Evil
Budm, you have mail (at the last address you wrote me from)
Hi All
TOPIC - biohydro
DATE - 16:39:25 5/02/99
FROM - TerryTune
water 3ft down keep digging till you see the slants in there eyes, what
are
you growing a tree no standing water in an 18 inch hole is fine all the
better if
a tap root can find water less work .this is the second time i have heard
of
people on this site digging huge holes{anything over a 5 gallon pot seems
stupid to me}why? am i missing somthing
also i would like to post a question i am from cent van isl and am trying
clones for the first time {seed man} i have my lights set for the end of
may 15
and 7 the girls are budding they will come back to veg{i hope} will the
buds
dry and dye or do i have to cut them back any info would be helpfull thanks
Terrytune
]
TOPIC - I mean
DATE - 16:09:23 5/02/99
FROM - biohydro
I mean that water has accumulated at the bottom of the hole I dug and its
not
from rain.
TOPIC - Outdoor planting
DATE - 16:07:52 5/02/99
FROM - BioHydro
I have a area that I plan on planting in. The vegetation has accumulated
at
the bottom. Im planning on filling this hole with potting soil, and vermiculite,
but will drainage be a problem because of the water or will this make it
unncecisarry to water since the roots can just get there water below them.
Should I make a mound? Or just scrap the whole idea here.around the area
includes shrubs, mosses, some pine, grasses, etc. The soil is very rich
and
contains many worms. The soil is slightly clay like but appears to be slightly
reddish. The problem is 3 feet down you get water. I dug a 3 foot hole
and
water
TOPIC - Re: Re: Starting seeds
DATE - 12:46:36 5/02/99
FROM - Shugroz
Have read that starting seeds in paper medium is not advisable due to
questionable Ph of paper! I suppose that some methods are more
acceptable than others. I have had success with using a one gallon zip-lock
freezer bag, placing a dampened white cloth towell, (preferably one NOT
laundered with a bleach product)folded in half with the little puppies
stragically placed on one half prior to folding and then putting the towell
in
the zip-lock and blowing it up with your exhaled air. Then place the balloon
like bag atop your refrigerator. I think the carbon dioxide promotes
gemination. I have had nearly 100% sucess rate with conventional seeds.
Sounds bizarre but does work. I wouldn't fill the ziplock after a heavy
night of
drinking.
MOJO
Receptive to other germination ideas!
TOPIC - Female Seeds or Femme Fatale
DATE - 09:11:51 5/02/99
FROM - R.C.
Sammy & Thunderheart:
Although I was reluctant at first to carry all female seeds from any breeder,
I
did get a small batch last November when D.P. introduced them at the H.T.
Cannabis Cup. I didn't list them till about Jan. as I was worried about
their
outcome myself. Since then, every report I've received has been extremely
positive and have yet to hear one complaint. So far not one report on any
males or hermaphrodites being produced, and all have had germination
rates in the region of 100% with excellent growth characteristics. All
female
seeds isn't for the grower who wants to breed, but they are an asset for
someone limited in time and space.
TOPIC - Hey Yall!!
DATE - 23:41:58 5/01/99
FROM - Perpetual Harvest
.....well....this is where y'all are , Hmmm...Ha! Nice to see some familiar
names! ben back online a couple days now and couldn't find a soul! WEIRD!
Good to see yoose guys!
Special high to Vic, Soul, Pi(no E 3.1415), A-man, Subcool, kumquat, Lady-J
& mg.
It's late, I'm beat, see y'all soon!
Peace!
Perp
TOPIC - Female Seeds: reply to Sammy
DATE - 19:06:01 5/01/99
FROM - Thunderheart
Sammy,
While in a-dam, i got to talk about the all females from Dutch passion.
Apparently they have found a way to produce these reliably on some strains.
They do this by basically stressing the mothers in certain ways. Personally
i
wouldn't trust it. If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is. I feel
this would
greatly increase you chance of hermies, and i try to avoid that like the
plague.
TH
TOPIC - Malawi Gold
DATE - 16:49:50 5/01/99
FROM - Bongo
Just go me some of these seed fresh out Zimbabwe. Supposed to be the
best weed in africa. I want to give it a shot in a scrog set up. Has anybody
come across this plant? What is it, Indica? Sativa? Will it work for a
small
scale closet grow? My friend who got the seeds said it had fat Indica like
leaves, but was 6ft tall.
TOPIC - FEMALE SEEDS
DATE - 16:10:18 5/01/99
FROM - SAMMY
ABOUT THESE 100% FEMALE SEEDS , IS THERE REALLY SUCH A THING
?
TOPIC - back from the shadows.....
DATE - 15:00:06 5/01/99
FROM - aeric77
for a minute or two anyway......hi ya Vic, BL, Soul, OT1, and all.......see
there's
been a shake up.....hope everyone is safe.....I'll stop back soon....aeric77....
TOPIC - kdfhdsik
DATE - 11:24:25 5/01/99
FROM - Eric
LIL'JOE
Its really hard to say what you have because of smuggling seeds by growers
to these different countries.
It sounds like it is an indica/satavia cross both of those countries have
for
100's years cultivated pot. The only way to know is to do them and see
what
comes up. Growing "unknown" seeds is always the most fun anyway, you
get disappointed more but it is like going treasure hunting, it is the
wait that
makes it worth while, and you never know, you might have a really good
strain
TOPIC -
DATE - 08:37:18 5/01/99
FROM - Budm
Hi All,
toots-IMO, Do what you need to do, many have grown with great results with
MH exclusivly, so no prolbem.Afoaf did his Romberries the reverse way,
MH
for the first 3 weeks, then he bought a 400hps, and finished with it. Dont
woory you'll get great results, the genetics are so good.
KGB What happened ????
lilJoe- Imo just give it a try, most discriptions especially from "friends"
are of
dubious origins, besides
even if I had a opinion on what that cross may or maynot be like, it would
prob not be accurate for the auctal genetices that those beans are really
made up of, give
them a shot,HTH
Peace
TOPIC - ROMBERRY HELP!!!!
DATE - 06:36:40 5/01/99
FROM - toots
Will it hurt to put my romberry under MH for the last three weeks of flowering?
They have been underr 430 sunag for the last 70 days. Im in a an awkward
situation and don't really want to buy another light but if if ne necesary.
TOPIC -
DATE - 20:02:54 4/30/99
FROM - LIL'JOE
I just got some seeds from a friend and he told me they are half Turkish
and
Jamaican.Can anyone tell what kind of high that might have and is that
a
good plant.
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