Time 16:22, 15 Dec 1998
Ever get that gift I sent you?
Time 15:18, 15 Dec 1998
my friend brought back 2 ounces of seeds from veitnam after the war. he spent
the whole time there looking for the best pot. Well he has been growing this
strain since then...using no breeding program.
Well have been told that the strain has lost its potency.
What i want to know ..is there a way to get the potency back?
if like 20 plants were grown would a
few have the original potenecy?
Time 14:43, 15 Dec 1998
Hry trelaway, Its a apt, only three laides,
but they are stinky ones, thanks for the
reply, im on my way to the addy now, A merry xmas, and a high new year to ya!
Time 14:21, 15 Dec 1998
From Lady J
vic, what is DAD? it should have a warning label...damn.
Time -1:57, 15 Dec 1998
dunno where you are or how many you are
growing but I've had great success
with this stuff called ona. Its non toxic and keeps my apartment smell free. Only
costs me two bucks a month to keep my eight budding women odourless
Time 19:42, 14 Dec 1998
Hi Vic, Gawd, these Roms are smelling
up the place, dont get me wrong I like it
but the neighbors, that I dont want. If I buy I ozone mach, can I place it near my
front door to keep the smell from creeping out of the crib, or does it need to be
nearer the closet? TIA
Time 13:51, 13 Dec 1998
From Lady J
vic>>all is well..:)
thanks and peace
Time 08:13, 12 Dec 1998
From Vic High
bishoptakesqueen - no idea bud. I just grow in dirt and give them more
than they need. There are many hydro growers here that may be able to help
though. I do know if something isn't just right, blueberry will be one
of the first to tell you. Good luck.
Time 08:06, 12 Dec 1998
From Vic High
I don't see anything wrong with 13-18". Who knows, maybe that is optimal in your set up, when you consider the temps at the plant tops, and the fact that the light is stationary. BTW - I too raise my plants more often than I adjust the light heights. Being a perpetual harvest system, I often have plants of different heights under the same 3 light suncircle.
Have a great weekend as well, Vic
Time -3:43, 12 Dec 1998
Hi Vic, excuse the first time Q's, But in flowering Rom, is 13-18in from the hps ok, or should I elevate them a bit? Is 12in really critical, Thanks, Have a great w-end!
Time 20:38, 10 Dec 1998
i need information regarding nutrition for blueberry in a nutrient film
hydropnic system--please help the seeds are on the way!
Time 14:27, 10 Dec 1998
Anyone ever feel like they've had a left brain or right brain stone. I just blew a jay of this brand new stuff I grew (no-name bad seed) and it actually feels like my left brain is baked and my right is clear.
Tho i'm still laughin' out both sides of my mouth.
Time 14:11, 10 Dec 1998
I have noticed that the clone draws the nutrients from the tips of the
leave to the stem.turning the leaves tips brown as the nutrients are pulled
out.Leaving the tips on the leaves allows the clone extra nutrients. cutting
the leaves would not let the plant use those nutrients for root development.
Time 13:27, 10 Dec 1998
Sorry pie wasn't npk's it was here :-
Time 13:17, 10 Dec 1998
Pie this is a small bit from NPK general hydro page:-
Three meters were used, each with source water that had its own unique
properties. One a Hanna EC meter, where mS readings were converted to ppm
(TDS) using the current 0.70 conversion standard for comparison with the
TDS meter displays. Another was an Oakton TDS meter, the third a Hanna
TDS442. Both TDS meters employ the 4-4-2 conversion standard for fertilizer
solutions. It should be noted that EC meters do not use a conversion value,
TDS meters are simply EC meters converted to readout in ppm instead of
mS or uS. The conversion is 0.70 x uS = ppm. All meters were calibrated
prior to the tests. In the Uk some recommend a 0.80 or0.85 conversion rate
sorry if I didn't explain properly. I thought we had previously discussed
that I was setting up a system to auto water from a tank with flood drippers
to each plant. So I want to feed my plants with this system too. So Iíve
been taking readings by the can or bucket it doesn't matter which and using
different mixes on separate blocks of plants to find the best mix. Then
all I have to do is add the same fert to the tank until the cf reading
is the same then i can open the valve and water & feed at the same
time. I hope this helps to clear up my inability to communicate properly.
I just wish I was like Lady J who can say with a few
words what takes me a page.
Time 12:02, 10 Dec 1998
i too trim my leave in about the same manner as vic. i also scrap the outside of the stem that is below the soil line. i was getting about 80% suruvual rate with clones until they started farging with the water mains outside my house. now i am having problems with the bigger plants too.
i will recieve an Oakton PH meter this week and an Oakton TDS meter
right around X-mas. I had a question as to wheather i could use the TDS
meter with organic teas and ot1 came to the resque. seems that he is able
to meter his oraganic teas. thought it would be good to bring the discussion
here. Vic being the organic king and allllllllll. ;-)))))) anhoo with thanks
to ot1 here is an explaination he gave me. "We tend to use Cf meters rather
than parts per million but I don't think there is much difference although
there is a lot of disagreement on the conversion numbers.The organic liquid
fertilisers we use give the recommended Cf readings on the label just the
same as the chemical coís do. I of course ignore them and their recommended
doses but have made records of the best results on a bucket scalefor using
tank scale for when my new setup is finished and ready to run."by ot1 my
- what is bucket scale and tank scale? fill-to-here marks maybe?????
- what is a Cf meter?
i know that they have another scale using mv, but all this is new too me.
Vic ... you may want to consider adding the following link ...
... which is full of information on TDS /ph etc meters.
Time 17:35, 9 Dec 1998
Hi Vic, The distance to the ladies is about 18in, they are in 2gal pots,
I could put
something under them to elevate them,at this point its more convient then
lowereing the light,to 12in, what do you susgest? Thanks a bunch.
Time 17:30, 9 Dec 1998
I find the same thing with clones, they don't need much luvin'. Tho,
with luvin' I've
had BCBB root in three days.
Time 16:04, 9 Dec 1998
Time 14:22, 9 Dec 1998
Vic ... Check out this link dude .. can be helpful
Time 11:09, 9 Dec 1998
Vic mail call. Ot1
Time 08:50, 9 Dec 1998
thats a good tip about cuttin the leaves. i just figured out how to
get more cuts in
my box.after new growth starts i usually remove those bottom leaves anyway.i
too use the same scissors that itrim and cut bud with.i do run em across
the stone occasionally.my clone box is one of those 12" deep clear plastic
storage boxes turned upside down with a 15 watt floro laying right on top.i do
make a point to remove the dome at least daily for a bit to allow air exchange
and break the life cycle of mold and fungus
Time 08:27, 9 Dec 1998
From Vic High
Budm - finishing height depends alot on growing style. I usually flower
plants at 18-20" and they consistantly finish at about 3'. Now that is just in my
garden. Others will have different results. A good rule of thumb with Romberry is
that they will double in height after you initiate flowering. They stretch far less
than say a skunk or nl/haze. I grow with between 20-30 watts per ft and people
are quite suprised with the quality of my nugs. They just look normal to me. I
agree with T2 that you should be fine with 60w/ft. You are keeping the light at
about 12" from the ladies?
Mr Hacker - thanks for the info. Ditto to Baudelaire and Pie, this info
important to us all.
Eric - Hmmmm
Aunt Nellie - Good idea, I'll have to try it. Ok, my hot cloning tips, haha
Most important to me is humidity and warmth. With these, dipping in
hormone is unnecesary. There has been a couple of occasions where I did my
pruning and then found out my rooting gel was moldy so I just said to hell with it
and went without. No problems. I have found that soaking the rooting medium
overnight with a Vitamin solution such as Nutriboost is a big help, but misting with
anything other than plain water or no-damp greatly slows the rooting process.
Ok the big tip is that I prune back the clones by removing the outer
1/2 of each
leaf. This extra plant material is not needed by the clone and helps prevent the
wilt factor. I also do it so that I can squeeze more clones into a smaller area, and
most importantly, I helps reduce mold infections. With the right technique, it
takes no time at all. I fold all the leaves up past the terminal shoot (like they
bundle christmas trees) and then with one cut with the scissors, remove all leaf
material that protrudes past the terminal shoot.
Truth is, is that I offer my clones very little in tlc. I don't cut
underwater, I don't
use a sterile razor knife ( just sharp scissors that I scraped the resin from the
last harvest off of), and I rarely look at them after they are set. I usually set them,
cover them with a humidity dome, place in the cloning bench, and then ignore for
2 weeks. In 2 weeks, I'll plant them into 5-6" pots containing the soil mix from my
webpage. I really don't have time to baby them, so just follow the techniques I
learned in the production forest nurseries. I do usually set about 20% more than
I plan on needing though.
Time 07:41, 9 Dec 1998
Toker2 Thanks for the outlook on the
nugs. Im working with only 52in, to the
bulb they are in the strech period now and have 23in left to go, before they hit
the light,so if I have to modify my situation, I will start now, So if anyone knows
the finishing hight of Rom , thanks in advance.
Time -3:00, 9 Dec 1998
budm i like those odds. your runnin over
60w/sq',you oughta have solid nugs
with most strains
Time 18:42, 8 Dec 1998
Hi Vic, Well it looks like out of five
RB's 4 are Female, They are under 400hps in
my bud closet only 6sqfeet.
With only the small 400(super soil $ pure blend), will I get tight nugs, from Rom?
And how tall will they be when they are done? Thanks for your time!
Time 14:32, 8 Dec 1998
long litany, et.al.>
As I said, lpwa is opaque, therefore
it forwards only the proxy IP. So, yes you can
send and receive Hotmail, or any other web-based email, anon with lpwa. But
you must use it EVERY time you log into your account. A single non-proxied log
in, either to set up the account, or check it, will give you up to the G(ates)-men.
So how's I doing, anon? Hint: I'm somewhere
between Walla Walla and Sedalia.
More or less.
Time 11:20, 8 Dec 1998
From anon/mr. hacker/asshole/and a long litany of others
not sure if lpwa will give you their
ip when sending e-mail. make sure when using
Hotmail, to check and see if the proxy covers e-mail too! send yourself an e-mail
from your hotmail account, to another account (whether hotmail,yahoo, or your
ISP). When you receive the e-mail look at the Originating IP. If it's your real IP
then you dont have "anon" e-mail! but you can still surf the web. if it shows your
proxies IP then you can use Hotmail and all the others safely to send e-mail. Any
Time 09:28, 8 Dec 1998
i used the lpwa to setup my hotmail account
toooooo. i let it pick my hotmail
name and password by using
\u = username
\p = password
\@ = for addy
so even my hotmail account is anon
Time 08:05, 8 Dec 1998
one more thing all of you indoor growers
need to keep in mind when thinking
about this.....well hell you need to keep it in mind period.
you have all heard of us outdoor farmers
planting and harvesting by the signs of
the moon and stars.
well the moon mainly...this is a practice
that most of you avoid and pay no
attention to but you should.
the reason that there is a difference
in plant and animal life during different
moon phases is not because of myth.
Its because of the different gravatational
pulls from the moon and its orbit
around us. Thats were you get the more babys being born on full moons and
It also has to do with the added light
at night ..but mainly with the gravatational
pulls from the moon swinging around the earth..hence high tides low tides and
my point is: Gravity doesnt stop pulling
on those plants just because they are
inside ya know?
Time 07:44, 8 Dec 1998
I think if we are going to discuss the
differences in potency...from an indoor
grown plant and an outdoor grown plant, we need to establish what exactly is
considered stress to a plant. One thing i think is that it takes more stress to a
plant outdoors than it does to a plant indoors to cause problems with it,
hermy,stretching,and other reactions to stress.
im having a hard time understanding this
because things that you guys are
terming stressfull events to a plant in an indoor operation....well most of the time
they are the norm for outdoor production.
this is a question i was also wondering
we all know how adaptive cannabis is..
well when we are doing these test by taking two clones from the same mom..
one is grown to maturity inside and one grown to maturity outside.
we have established that they will be
very different...but different in how many
ways???and also if a plant can change itself to become a hermifadite to insure
survival......what the hell else can it
change...color...taste...potency...height....and mind you that the hermifaditic trait
is self inflicted and has nothing to do with the mother...because we stressed it
and it became a hermy..it did this on its own so it would produce pollen that
would travel away from the hell hole it is living in..
so what else can it change?????
i know that breeding programs can change
different things....but what about that
Time 05:30, 8 Dec 1998
From Aunt Nellie
OK, it's time to try to give back a little
for the help I'm getting.This is my
BEST TIP since the difference, once I started doing it, was amazing!BTW,
what's everyone else's BEST TIP?What's the best product or technique
that you've used?
Cloning!Clones always droop for about
a day before straightening back
up, right?I found that that "stretch" spot would sometimes begin to turn
brown and was most suseptable to mold.I read an article in HT Best of
Grow issue about a guy who said that he would sometimes put his clones in the
refrigerator (for up to 2 days) if he wasn't quite ready to plant them.He
also mentioned that he thought they actually did better after this "chilling".I
took some clones, put them in a shallow dish with distilled water, put them in the
frige for a day, angle cut the stems under water (I'm sure the chilling makes a
nicer cut, too), planted them in Jiffy 7's and suddenly I could clone with the best
of them!They never drooped and, in fact, seemed to take off growing right
out of the humidity dome!I kid you not, you've got to try this.I've left
them for half a day and up to 2 days.I think they'd last much longer,
though.Remember, the guy in the article was just storing them for a while
and that, in itself, might be helpful to some of you.The babies definitely do
One other thing I discovered regarding
cloning was that if I used the humidity
dome, it was better not to mist the babies too.It definitely cuts down on the
mold.I just remove the cover for a short time a couple of times a day to air
things out and put it back on to let the humidity build again.I also use a
heating pad for bottom heat and that creates all the humidity needed without
Hope this helps.
Time 04:55, 8 Dec 1998
From Aunt Nellie
Baudelaire--Thanks!Exactly what I was
after.You seem comfortable
with LPWA and that's reassuring.The instructions that I used (from
Greenman's page) suggested setting up the proxy first then a new Hotmail
address.When I set up the proxy, though, I didn't know if the new Hotmail
name was taken and, sure enough, it was.I did set up a new Hotmail
account that was different than the LPWA login name (someone else's Hotmail
name) and noticed that the original login worked anyway (again, with someone
else's name).So I just left it thinking that it would create a little confusion.
That seems to be what you're suggesting so I feel pretty safe
Stix--Glad I'm not the only one getting
something from this discussion.And
yeah, Eric, I am really enjoying this page!
One final question.Am I safe using my
new Hotmail account that I
explained above (set up after going through the proxy)?I mean is there
extra risk (compared to posting here) by exchanging e-mail with someone? I
used Anonymizer's remailers to send a test e-mail and it came through 2 days
later.I don't think that someone can return that mail, though, so if I wanted
to correspond with someone, I'd have to give an e-mail address.Is that
OK, considering the proxy?
Time 15:56, 7 Dec 1998
This is a good hangout aint it?
I like this place......
Time 14:24, 7 Dec 1998
Hey thanks guys for the security info,
especially Aeric77 for the simple lpwa
instructions. This is great, my browser is actually a little faster than before it
Eric>>Re hermies, many years ago when we could gro outdoors out of about 8
patches of the same seed stock we had one patch that had about 4 of the 20 or
so plants in there go hermie. No plant in any other patch showed hermie
tendancies. The conditions were a little worse and the light in that patch was the
least which is what I think caused it.
Time 11:19, 7 Dec 1998
single space, B, single space....Sorry folks, old habits are hard to break.
p.s.- say anon, how's I doing? ;^)
Time 11:10, 7 Dec 1998
for lpwa, many folks use email@example.com or firstname.lastname@example.org,
email@example.com, etc. as both log in
and password.don't give em a real addy, it isn't required.and the
more folks use one of the 'generic' user name/pwords, the less your posts can
be tracked back to you.remember, to use your words against you, they
must prove first that they were *your* words.
lpwa works, its up a lot of the time,
and it's owned by lucent technologies, big
u.s. company, so its very unlikely its a dea trap. however i prefer proxies that
don't have a log-in interface and are based outside your home
country.the more jurisdictions you make the man jump through, the less
excited he gets about tracking you.because after getting 30 different
okays from his boss and drug nazi central, kissing two judge's asses for a couple
of marginal-based court orders, and promising 15 future favors to constable
henrik jeergens of the greater copenhagen harm reduction task force, detective
doughnut just might find out that you really do live in denmark.or walla
walla.what good is that to a up-n-coming oklahoma state drug task force
agent?cops pick the low hanging fruit.set yourself up high in the
last ***very important*** thing to remember:not
all proxies are
anon.many of the more well known are 'transparent' in that they forward
your original IP # to the sites you are visiting.lpwa and anonymizer are
opaque.librarysafe is transparent.to check, log on with the proxy of
your choice, and go to this site: http://www.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/info
look for 'remote host' and 'remote address'.see if your IP shows
there.if the proxy is opaque (anon) it should show the proxy's IP only.
don't know your IP #?go tohttp://consumer.net/Analyze1/
without a proxy.it will tell you that and oh so much more about
good luck, stay safe
Time 09:58, 7 Dec 1998
aeric77>>>I think that given your question
and i think about it, I say this I think
that if you take those two clones..put one in the best growing enviroment
possabile with all the added co2 and everything, I believ that that will not be
considered stress to the plant as in battering it, I think that it will produce more
area for thc glands and that it willproduce more thc because of all the available
water and food for itself..it is programmed to produce as much as possable and
with the added buildinhg blocks to do it it will,
the clone outside will not have as much
resin or as much of a flower, but i
believe that the potency of that thc will be stronger than the one grown in
I will compare this to COTTON.. you can take a field of cotton and look at the
coton grown on the edge of the field that is covered in dust all the time because
it is next to the gravel road and only gets water when it rains
(seldom)...compared to the cotton plants in the middle of the field that are dust
free and are irragated regularly.
the cotton on the edge is 1/3 the size
of the cotton in the middle and has 1/3 the
bowls of cotton. BUT take that bowl and compare it to a bowl from the middle
and it is twice as tuff ( meaning harder to pull apart, And the seeds inside have a
harder shell than the middle row cotton.
pecans from irragated and mantaned orchards have BIGGER pecans with more
nut inside, BUT the pecans from unirragated orchards pecans are smaller
less nut but they taste better.
this also works with fruit, I prefer
wild muscadines than story bought, pears and
apples and even back berries
so i guess what i think is that the fruit
is bigger in controled enviroments but, the
fruit is better from the uncontrolled. In pot i guess the seeds will taste better and
the pot would be more potent.....Id like to ask that guy
chooki about the seeds that he produces
..he made the statement that he grew some plants in pure sand and that those
plants had an extra protective coating on them compared to the plants that were
grown in normal soil.
Treleway>>>>>until i had seen an indoor
setup or before i came onto the
internet i had NEVER seen a herm, growers that have been growing since the
70's had seen it once or twice but very very very rare in outdoor gardens. These
are growers that have never even heard of seedbanks, just traded amongst
and they were doing inbreeding as well.
the only difference is they never did any breeding programs year after year and
no records were ever kept..they just took the best looking plants and crossed
and i have always felt that indicas make
me a hell of alot more paranoid than the
most growers here wouldnt touch an indica...
to give you an example. i had a patch of 6 satavias and 4 indacas..
my satavias were stolen but my indicas were still there...
aint that some shit..go through all the trouble to steal my pot and leave the damn
indicas thats what you call a picky smoker..I ended up giving those away
because the first joint made my heart beat race out of wack and every bad thing
ive ever done came to me at that moment PARONIA CITY...that blew my damn
..now everyone here isnt like that...just the older guys..the kids here love
anything that smells like pot.
Oltimer>>>> i will send ya a sample one
day.....So do you think that if a grower
here took an indica that was very good up north and grew it here that the
potency would be much higher here. Hell our growing season hasnt stopped for
this year yet...i was at a friends houseyesterday and she still has 7
satavias outside, I saw a little frost damage to the leaves but thats it...he havent
had a killer frost yet...
THE GREAT cHANUCK (HACKER)>>>>
sorry dude but that wasnt me...
67ed>>> I forgot that you and I were
not living far from one another..and you are
correct..IT GETS VERY HUMID HERE....sometimes so bad you cant breath.
Time 08:22, 7 Dec 1998
oldtimer1 - Yes the clones were from
the same mum.
Time 06:05, 7 Dec 1998
From on purpose
sorry Carnack you are not GREAT today.
not even close.
Time 04:49, 7 Dec 1998
From Aunt Nellie
Thanks, guys, for the continuing conversation
about net security.I have
read the anonymizer site and many others regarding this topic.Mr. Hope
this helps/on purpose: thanks for the post explaining how a proxy works but I'm
looking for anonymity and not necessarily surfing speed.And if I don't
know the pluses and minuses of LPWA, I sure wouldn't recognize a good proxy
from your list. Which is a good proxy for someone in the US?Not a list, just
name one or two that you feel are "safe".The anonymizer and others like it
are set up like e-mail with fields for whom the mail is being sent to, etc. but
message board posts are set up slightly different with just optional name and
e-mail address.How would I use anonymizer (or even Hotmail) to post to a
message board? Sorry if this sounds really basic but computers came along
after I was out of school and this is all very foreign to me.
I've actually been trying to read and
understand this subject for at least a year.
I hate to sound like "I have a seed, now what do I do?" but I'm probably not
much beyond that as far as computer understanding goes.Is everyone
comfortable with LPWA?Yes or No.You like a different proxy better?
Which one and how would I configure it?Anonymizer dialup service
is not available in my area--does anyone know of something similar or am I just
as safe using my ISP and a proxy?
I probably shouldn't worry since I have
nothing growing right now and don't really
need to start anything soon.I experimented with different homemade
systems and mediums and developed a really simple passive hydro system
using coconut coir as the medium.I grew for personal consumption only,
trying to produce as much as I could as quickly as I could, then stashing
everything away from my premises.I could easily go another couple of
years or so and won't start anything again until I feel it's really cool.I've
never talked to anyone about my hobby but I'm dying to do so.After all my
planning, though, I hate to just "advertise" it on the internet.Thanks for the
help (again, please be specific) and I'll offer my insights when I'm finally
Vic--Thanks for the site and the help
that you and your friends are giving me.
I got a kick out of your "Aunt Nellie" name that you mentioned in your first
post to me and I've decided to adopt that for my moniker.Wouldn't we all
love a "kind" Aunt Nellie.I just hope that I can get involved here and use it.
Time -3:37, 7 Dec 1998
From The Great Carnack
"Mr Hacker, do you now who i normally
post as? i am trying to improve my anon
setup. i would appreciate your help.
Yes, you post as Eric Carr. Learn to
Time 19:51, 6 Dec 1998
From Vic High
LMAO - sorry anon hacker, but you just
failed hacker 101. There are many
many here that know just how wrong you are. I don't even know where walla
walla is, haha. I'm a canuck who lives on southern Vancouver Island, as I'm sure
many here can atest to. I use a local ISP and when I visit certain sites such as
HBC's new site, it gives me the name of my ISP if I don't use a proxy.
Nervous Nellie - please take the time
to educate yourself before "going for it".
The below post by "hope this helps" has many good links to educate yourself,
plus many good proxy URLs. Good Luck.
Budm - I like to flower romberry for
8 weeks. I'm not sure what you mean by
cytokinin application. I have played with a chemical called "Blossom Blood"
where I applied it at week 2-3 and then again at week 4-5. As for when males
become a threat, that is a little too subjective to give a definate answer. Some
seedlings flower in veg, and others seem to remain in veg without flowering.
Speed of flowering will depend on age and size. Bigger and older plants will
flower faster. I don't want to sound like a smart ass, but the males become a
threat when the flowers start to open. Sorry, but that is the best I can do for you.
Time 19:35, 6 Dec 1998
I don't think MJ people are going to
get busted on the net without a global effort
to do so. I think it would take UN level interest in shutting down the transfer of
our info before we should be worried.
That we can be had is obvious, the crackdown on kiddie porn proves it.
The beauty/selling-feature of the net
is its anonymity. If that goes, so do many of
the people who buy computers and pay monthly isp charges.
I think we're safe, but I also live in
BC where the most I'd get is fines anyway, so
maybe I'm a little cocky about it....
Time 18:30, 6 Dec 1998
is this you
Time 18:26, 6 Dec 1998
From on purpose
vic sorry for the double post.
note... the list below maybe out of date
Time 18:22, 6 Dec 1998
From hope this helps / on purpose
you can also chain a proxy and the anomimyzer
more than once but it sure does
slow down surfing
try thes site above for more info
lpwa -> anonimizer -> anonimizer -> site
AN INTRODUCTION TO PROXIES
The Internet Proxy Server
A proxy server speeds up your access
to the Internet. A proxy server is a
configured with some software that serves requests from a client. The Internet
Prolink proxy server is a system of computers that handle requests from your
PC or Macintosh, and pass them on to these remote servers. When the remote
responds, the response is sent back to your PC.
How does the proxy server speed up my internet access?
The proxy servers are very powerful Unix
computers that are directly connected
to the Internet Prolink internet backbone. They have a lot of memory and disk
space, and can handle thousands of requests per second. Because of this high
performance, the latency of requests between you and the remote server are
The main advantage of the proxy server
is that it can also do caching. Caching
is the process of storing files that have been recently used on a local disk
so they do not need to be transferred across the world for each person that
needs to access the file. For example, if a new version of netscape comes out,
and 10'000 Internet Prolink users want to ftp this file from California, the
caching proxy server makes it possible that the file will only be transferred
once from the USA, and then all other users will have what appears to be local
access to the file. This helps three ways:
You don't have to wait for a busy remote server;
Access to the file is limited only by your modem or ISDN speed;
Less internet bandwidth is used, making other users happier.
Another advantage is that the proxy server
can read data from the remote
much faster than your PC or Mac. This means that if the remote system is not
totally overloaded, the time for your transfer will be less. The proxy will
"smooth out" the data transfer by reducing latency.
What is latency?
Latency is the time it takes to start
or stop something. For example, walking
is a low latency task, whereas flying in an airplane is a high latency task.
Clearly, once one starts flying, it is quite fast, but it takes a long time
to get started, since you have to arrive at the airport some time before the
flight actually leaves.
Why is lower latency a good thing?
Surfing on the internet is a series of
starts and stops, so any reduction in
latency decreases the time to get a file.
Is proxy.autoconf a Java program?
that allows some intelligence to be
into the proxy software in Netscape. For example, if one proxy server is not
available, it will simply go to another. Also, some proxy servers can be
for USA sites, and others for European sites.
LIST OF PROXIES AND THEIR PORT NUMBERS
last update 07/15/98
(everbody can use them without restrictions)
Provider URL Port Protocol Extra comment
COM Librarysafe server.librarysafe.com 81 WWW/FTP/GOPHER
COM I-Proxy http://www.iproxy.com/launch.html - WWW
get your own free account
COM LPWA lpwa.com 8000 WWW/FTP
l: your Email p: write something
JP Translator zip-translator.dna.affrc.go.jp 30001 WWW/FTP
KR Kren proxy.kren.nm.kr 8080 WWW/FTP
KR Snu proxy.snu.ac.kr 8080 WWW/FTP
Accessible provider proxys
(useable but the providers perhaps don't want that you use their proxy)
Provider URL Port Protocol
AE Emirates.Net http://proxy.emirates.net.ae/proxy.pac - AUTOCONFIG
AR UNCU noc.uncu.edu.ar 8080 WWW/FTP
AT Wu-Wien proxy.wu-wien.ac.at 8080 WWW/FTP/GOPHER/SECURITY
AT Merlin proxy.merlin.at 8080 WWW/FTP/GOPHER/WAIS/SECURITY
AU Dbworld proxy.dbworld.net.au 8080 WWW/FTP/SECURITY
AU localnet.localnet.com.au 8080 WWW / FTP
BM IBL proxy.ibl.bm 8080 WWW / FTP
CA Connect cache.connect.ab.ca 3128 WWW
CA PRN odin.prn.bc.ca 8080 WWW / FTP
CH Pingnet proxy.pingnet.ch 8080 WWW / FTP
CH Dataway http://www.dataway.ch/ns.pac - AUTOCONFIG
CL Intermedia proxy.intermedia.cl 8080 WWW / FTP
CZ Cuni webcache.ms.mff.cuni.cz 8080 WWW/FTP/GOPHER/WAIS/SECURITY
CZ Cvut cache.sh.cvut.cz 3128 WWW / FTP
COM Silcom proxy.silcom.com 3128 WWW / FTP/GOPHER
COM DEC cache2.nlanr.pa-x.dec.com 3128 WWW / FTP
DE T-Online ics2f.s.srv.t-online.de 80 WWW / FTP
DE VossNet cache.vossnet.de 3128 WWW / FTP
DE N-W pluto.nienburg-weser.de 8080 WWW / FTP
DE FH-Aachen http://www-proxy.fh-aachen.de:8080/ AUTOCONFIG
DE Uni-Stuttgart infosun-fd.rus.uni-stuttgart.de 8080 WWW/FTP/GOPHER
DK Auc http://cwis.auc.dk/proxy/always.pac AUTOCONFIG
EDU Aubg http://www.aubg.edu 8080 WWW / FTP
EDU DLU owl.dlu.edu 8080 WWW / FTP
ES Softec linux.softec.es 8080 WWW / FTP
ES Esegi dos2.esegi.es 3128 WWW / FTP
FI Oktasys proxy.oktasys.fi 80 WWW/FTP/GOPHER
IL IDC mail.idc.ac.il 8080 WWW / FTP
IT Micronet http://www.micronet.it/proxy.pac AUTOCONFIG
IT Galactica proxy.galactica.it 8080 WWW / FTP
JO Go www.go.com.jo 8080 WWW / FTP
JP Kyutech sama.isc.kyutech.ac.jp 8080 WWW / FTP
KR Kyunghee cvs2.kyunghee.ac.kr 8080 WWW / FTP
MY Jaring proxy1.jaring.my 3128 WWW
NET EU chip.Austria.EU.net 8080 WWW / FTP
NET IBS proxy.IBS-GmbH.net 8080 WWW / FTP
NET MR mpls.cache.mr.net 3128 WWW / FTP
NL CS.VU www-proxy.cs.vu.nl 8080 WWW
NO Lofotposty proxy.lofotposten.no 80 WWW
NO Arcticnet www.arcticnet.no 80 WWW
NO Robin proxy.robin.no 8080 WWW / FTP
ORG Silk proxy.silk.org 3128 WWW/FTP/GOPHER/WAIS/SECURITY
PK AOL oolala.aol.net.pk 8080 WWW / FTP
PK AOL magic.aol.net.pk 8080 WWW / FTP
PL CTO w3cache.us.edu.pl 8080 WWW / FTP/GOPHER
PL ICM sunsite.icm.edu.pl 8080 WWW / FTP
RO Starnets proxy.starnets.ro 3128 WWW / FTP/GOPHER
SK Stuba axp.elf.stuba.sk 8080 WWW / FTP
SG NTU news.ntu.edu.sg 8080 WWW / FTP
TH Hatyaiwit www.hatyaiwit.ac.th 8080 WWW / FTP
TH Wnet ns2.wnet.net.th 8080 WWW / FTP
TR Turnet proxy1.turnet.net.tr 8080 WWW
TR Turnet proxy2.turnet.net.tr 8080 WWW
US Elpaso episd.elpaso.k12.tx.us 8080 WWW / FTP
US WA dilbert.bb.cc.wa.us 3128 WWW / FTP
YU Telekom proxy.telekom.yu 8080 WWW / FTP
ZA New cache.new.co.za 8080 WWW/FTP/GOPHER/WAIS/SECURITY
ZA Pix cyclone.pix.za 8080 WWW / FTP
ZW Cybergate proxy.cybergate.co.zw 8080 WWW / FTP
Time 18:13, 6 Dec 1998
From on purpose
Mr Hacker, do you now who i normally
post as? i am trying to improve my anon
setup. i would appreciate your help.
Time 17:34, 6 Dec 1998
Vic, one more question, at what week
does a male RB become a danger to the
females, to be a pollen threat? Thanks
Time 17:15, 6 Dec 1998
Hi all, Hope everyone had a good weekend!
Ive been lurking, and Nellie if you
want another proxie addy, I have about 20 of them, all over the world. Just post
back and ill figure out a way to get a couple of them to ya! Hey Vic how many
days does RB need in the flower room? Do you have any advice, on a
application of cytokin, once half way through the Flower stage?
Time 14:42, 6 Dec 1998
BTW, i've never e-mailed you at any account
Time 14:41, 6 Dec 1998
vic, if your such a straight up, stand
up guy who is only trying to prove a point,
then why do'nt you admit that your ISP is Blue Mountain Internet in Walla Walla,
Washington? whats the big deal mr. honesty?
Time 14:04, 6 Dec 1998
From (Less) Nervous Nellie
Vic--Thanks for the excellent post and
I agree that paranoia should not rule
one's life.There was a situation in my area a while back where a guy was
busted for kiddie porn that was on his computer when it was sent in for servicing.
The repair guy just casually (and illegally--he was charged) scoped out
the contents of the guy's computer and then turned him in.Linda Tripp
might have also done something illegal but the Prez, just like the pedophile (hey,
if Monica was a few years younger he could be both) got busted.That
said, I'm inclined to agree that a small, personal grow wouldn't measure up to
bringing down presidents or pedophiles.So, if you think it's cool, I'm just
going to go for it.I do hope the discussion goes on, though, especially
regarding lpwa specifically or if there's a better alternative.
Time 12:37, 6 Dec 1998
From Vic High
This indoor/outdoor discussion is interesting.
Here on the west coast of BC, we
have very good outdoor and very good indoor, but they are very
different.I'm not much of a smoker so I can't say what the differences are,
but experienced buyers seem to be able to tell right away. I've tried growing the
better outdoor inside and it becomes a heavy yielding but very low potent shwag
weed. My indoor starts out real well outside, but fizzles in the end and doesn't
finish in time. Mind you, if you take romulan and grow it in a heated greenhouse,
you'll get some monster kick ass bud.... and lots of it. This is using natural
daylengths. This last summer my dad grew romberry in 5 gal pails, but flowered
them in July/August by moving to a dark place in the basement each night. He
couldn't grow to save his soul, so he didn't end up with much, but what he did
have was the most potent yet. I just figured the summer sun was better for THC
developement than the fall sun? Or was it the stress that caused a small harvest
also caused higher potency?
Anon ?hacker? - is there more than one?
my point is that your anon comments
usually are fear mongering and serve no positive purpose other than to disrupt
this page. Most of your smoke screens are from hacker 101. I'm more a flower
boy than a computer geek, but even I can see through your comments for what
they are. Truth is, if you are any good at what you do, then you know I never
post anon or under a name other than Vic High. So, I assume your comments
about certain posts making you sick applies to some other visitors to this page. If
you feel someone here is a security risk and posting crap, feel free to email me.
I'm sure you have the hotmail addy, I believe you've emailed me in the past? I
think I recognise syntax and subject content.
Nervous Nellie - aeric's comments are
right on the money from what little I know.
Each page you visit on the net logs your ISP number and usually logs where you
came from and where you went. This isn't really as scary as it sounds. The ISP
number gives nothing more than who your internet provider is. In my case, my
ISP has a few thousand clients. This means that all the hacker can figure out is
that I am one of the many thousands that share that ISP. Like aeric mentioned, it
would take some heavy duty money and search warrants to get any closer than
that. The kind of pull that is reserved for large scale crimes, such as financial
manipulations, espionage, and kiddy porn. Well you know what I mean. Unless
we were into large scale drug smuggling, I doubt we would ever be worth their
time and money. Even though I'm currently cruising without a proxy to prove a
point, I believe a non-detectable proxy is an important safety precaution. It helps
you remain even more anon.
Now I doubt your ISP is reading what
you post. They log when you enter and exit
their service and maybe where you go. I'm not even sure if they can read your
post - maybe mr. anon can fill us in here. If they do, they would be breaking the
law and setting themselves up to go out of business. Society would not stand for
allowing an ISP worker violating our privacy and reading our letters to Aunt
Now my habit of visiting hotmail. I've
set www.hotmail.com as my home page so
that it is always my first stop when entering the net. I'm usually short of time, so I
usually just stop here and check my email. If I surf from here, I'm usually going
someplace I don't want to be followed, so I make a short stop at any generic
page, usually just the hotmail front page. Sometimes I decide to read the local
online sports page. I hope this helps make it clearer.
I agree with the others that a little
paranoia is healthy, but I also know it is
healthy to understand where to focus that paranoia energy. Many of us grow MJ
to express our desire to have the freedom to do so. But if it means living in
paranoia and always looking over our shoulders, then what's the point. I believe
in managing my fears and not letting them take over my life. I've said this before,
but if we let the fears manage us, then we have lost the freedom that were are
fighting to protect.
Time 10:20, 6 Dec 1998
Aeric 77 Are you saying I should be using
a different proxy? Ot1.
Time 10:15, 6 Dec 1998
Mik just went there on a different proxy
and it all seems to be working.Ot1
Time 10:08, 6 Dec 1998
67ed this year we saw hardly any sun
and yes it is milder being a small island
there are less extremes in temperature the gulf stream flows by our shores. If
you take a variety that will finish mid September here outdoors identical clones
grown indoors will be three or four times as potent with much denser buds.Take
cuttings of the same var to the south of France and they kick the ass off of the
indoor from here, we have been there and done that thing. I was just trying to
explain this to Eric. Growing under glass here to get the best results with tropical
vars you really need supplementary lighting with uv output for them to fully
express there potential. At the present time this is just to risky.
Mike Iím having probs logging onto some
of your pages have you got a server
On the question of lights I would use
8 x 400 w over the space indicated about
53 w per sq ft which should produce high quality dense buds. With clones i
would fit in 150 plants in 4 litre tall pots. The only prob with a block this large is
that a drip system would be needed for watering / feeding.
All the best Ot1.
Time 09:20, 6 Dec 1998
hello there Old'un.......
Time 09:18, 6 Dec 1998
From Mike (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Nervous Nellie>>> (love the name)
The spookbusters pages are a cynical attempt to frighten people.there is
absolutely no credibility whatever in anything they have posted.
You are right to be aware of the need for security and a degree of paranoia is
healthy and necessary. Be aware that the green man has made enemies by his
truthfullness and several companies send out the real genetics and these are a
target for both the authorities and for the more unscrupulous of their
Provided you follow the advice from Aeric and other respected members of this
community you can be sure that you are as safe as it is possible to be in a
Time 09:06, 6 Dec 1998
From Nervous Nellie
Aeric77--If my ISP can read what I post
then it doesn't seem very difficult to find
me.After going through the proxy I'm sure it gets tougher to find someone
but short of an anonymizer dialup service it would seem like suicide to mention
anything illegal.Again, I'm a computer illiterate and maybe I just don't
understand.Thanks for spending the time to help me as I can't ask friends.
Time 08:57, 6 Dec 1998
I don't think there is a way to be totally secure on the net....the best you can
hope for is to try to make it very expensive to be tracked to your door......I think
anon will agree that with enough equiptment, time, and money aperson can be
found.....the idea is to not be worth finding.......so don't talk about the 621 plants
ya got growing and no one will give a shit if you happen to have 2 plants growing
in the closet...
Time 05:50, 6 Dec 1998
From Nervous Nellie
I am so glad to see this internet security
discussion going on.I know very
little about this and have just recently set up lpwa as my proxy.I got the
information about how to do it at a Greenman's page.Just after setting it
up, though, I read a page at Spookbusters that said that lpwa was run by the
government and Greenman was a Narc and to not use lpwa.Strange thing
is that I just reread the Greenman page and now they're not mentioning lpwa
anymore but give instructions on setting up a different proxy.What's the
real deal? If I'm using lpwa right now should I be OK?My ISP can read this,
can't they?And Vic says he goes through Hotmail before going to any
pages--why?Do you actually check your account and then log out or is
just running the main page good enough?I'm anxious to jump into these
discussions but my freedom is more important so your help would be greatly
Time -3:17, 6 Dec 1998
Yeah, I think you may be right...I can't remember.......67ed, I think
lpwa.com also has the setup instructions for exploerer at their site and can walk
you thru it.....
Time -3:12, 6 Dec 1998
yes aeric, perfect.
although you may have to go to lpwa.com first and sign-up for a username and
password before configuring your computer.
Time -3:09, 6 Dec 1998
BTW vic, i think you dont know what a
"real" hacker is. I don't post only
negatives but can reply in turn as well. It is just really disgusting for me because i
KNOW 'who' posts 'what', ya know? Yes it is hard to believe what levels men
stoop to. I don't post LIES. The only thing you have to fear is the TRUTH! I am a
fellow grower too. Although I don't have ANY plants on my premises NOR do I
know of the location of any plants, foreign or domestic and I disavow any
knowledge of ANYTHING to which I am party. Man I am STONED! peace
Time -3:08, 6 Dec 1998
right click on the explorer icon on your desktop to bring up the
properties window then click on properties...then click on advanced and go down
the list to cookies and check disble all cookies then uncheck all java
boxes.....now click on the connection tab and check the box for access the
internet using a proxy..then click on the advanced tab beside it.....a proxy
address window will come up...in the http addy box type lpwa.com and in the port
box beside it type 8000......now your puter is set to use the lpwa proxy...the first
time you start your machine now it will take you to the lpwa proxy page and you
will have to put in an email addy and a password that you will have to use each
time you sign on to the web.....I suggest you use a hotmail or lycaeum email
addy.....and don't forget your password....try it...did I leave anything out Mr
anon? maybe you could help us all instead of trying not to??????
Time -3:00, 6 Dec 1998
use lpwa.com for now and then subscribe
to a proxy server with a dial-up
connection that is not a toll call for your area.
Time 19:52, 5 Dec 1998
Well then, how do I get anonymity for
explorer 4.n? Peace
Time 18:53, 5 Dec 1998
correction- I meant to say you could
recreate November at the 16th lat, not
Time 18:50, 5 Dec 1998
From 67ed (email@example.com)
Ot, not all's lost! You realize, of course,
that by flowering using a greenhouse
darkening system in May-July, you could recreate the sun's intensity at the 29th
lat in September, or the 16th lat in Oct. I'm below the 40th, and not too far from
Eric, but I'm far from any ocean, and the winter temps here might kill the hardiest
Englishman (oh, not really, but it is much colder!) I'm into palm trees, and tried to
grow a European fan palm here outdoors in the ground by wrapping it with
burlap in winter, but it lanquished and died within two years. This same variety of
palm tree grows easily in England, and often escapes cultivation there! And
Ericland (still above the 30th) isn't all that favorable for cann., it's very humid
there, and is at a low altitude. Can anyone help: I'm trying to get a proxy for
Explorer 4.n even though I'm nowhere near "Sedalia". I spent 2 hours
downloading Netscape Navigator, and when I tried to install it, there wasn't
enough memory left in my temp files for installation. I'm using a fairly new Pent 2
with win 98. Peace
Time 14:26, 5 Dec 1998
Eric It is well documented that the most
potent natural cannabis plants come
from between the thirtieth parallels. Reaching the most potent within 5 deg of the
equator and at the highest elevations where the UV radiation is also he highest.
Thc is the best natural sunscreen known and is thought to be an adaption to
protect the seed embryo from uvc. If you take a high potency strain to England
and grow it with enough protection so that seed is produced the next generation
will produce less thc and will mature in a shorter time but still need protection to
produce seed. Given 4 or 5 generations of doing this the plant will adapt to our
conditions produce seed naturally without protection and instead of the original
10% thc will be producing less than 1% thc. This plant is just wonderful at
adapting to its environment. The reverse was true when our government wanted
to produce cheap hemp fibre they decided to stop growing hemp in Norfolk and
move production to the middle east using slave labour. The first year a bumper
crop. the second year the plants only made 7 or 8 ft instead of 12 to 15 ft and
had a lot of side branches instead of being whips. by the third year they were
only 5 or 6 ft high very branched the fibre to short for sail making apart from that
it had become very resinous. In the end they had to produce seed every year in
the uk to send to the middle east and the Admiralty ended up spending nearly
as much as they would have if they left the production where it had been.
As far as you being far south you dont know how lucky you are which is what I
was saying in my post. Ot1.
Time 12:25, 5 Dec 1998
From Lady J
Remember, cannabis is a living thing
and not all aspects are cut-and-dry (no
pun intended). Some varieties will hermie under stress, others do it in response
to genetic propensities. As far as potency goes, find two people who can even
agree on what that means and I'll be impressed. I prefer to think in terms of
cannabinoid profiles cbn,thc,cbd and high "types" than just potency. Some of the
most enjoyable pot is not always simply the most potent. But then, I try to
apporach things from a holistic view rather than right/wrong, or better/worse. If
you know what you like, want, and prefer in a plant then you can strive towards
that end. What one person likes, you may find less than desirable and vice
Time 11:11, 5 Dec 1998
Thought I'd wade into this one with a
thought. If stress is a contributing factor for
herms (im not saying it is, just that it's current theory)would it stand reasoning
that the outdoor clone would run a higher risk of self-fertilization?
And many say an earlier harvest(high
white hair ratio) creates a trippier/more
paranoid stone: so maybe the aging process of the plant makes it increasingly
desirable to animals that eat it. Kinda like fermenting fruit draws birds.
Time 11:03, 5 Dec 1998
No i would not do that...
but i read somewhere I think it was written by ED Roasantal...
seems like he mentioned that there was a process of stressing an outdoor plant
by removing leaves...I would never recomend doing this..
unless maybe if you had your plants in your back yard and you experimented
with it ..
My main concern has always been having
As for potency I never stripped leaves
or anything else..i tried to make it a nice and as stressless of a life as possable
Its just life protecti9ng itself.
Time 10:39, 5 Dec 1998
Taking your idea to its natural conclusion: are you saying we should make it as
difficult for the plants as possible when growing indoors in order to increase
If it could be done safely it would be a lot of fun! Bring the outdoors indoors...
Time 10:29, 5 Dec 1998
your diction appears to have improved this am........do
you think the force feeding and high levels of co2, along with all the other
methods used to increase growth rates using hydro, might also make the plants
feel battered around and thus produce more thc than normal......and wouldn't
growing outside be the norm?
Time 08:45, 5 Dec 1998
I dont understand your post...
Im far south man....
this is the way i understand plants and potency..
look at a pepper plant for instance..a
pepper plant uses the hotness in its skin to
protect the seeds inside the pepper, if you start eating the pepper from the
bottom end and work your way up..it gets hotter and hotter the farther upwards
its because the seeds are in the very
top of the pepper and the plant is using
the oil in the skin to make it hot so that animals will leave it and the seeds
now after the pepper gets ripe..the seeds are mature and then animals can eat
the pepper and deposit the seeds along their journey
POT is the same
but THC is the protection..if you eat to much you get sick..and if an animal goes
to eat a bud it will not like the feeling it gets and the sickness that goes with it..
so it learns not to eat the buds..
so the plant uses THC to protect itself from being killed..
Therefore if the plant is in a more dangerous
..life threting enviroment it will
produce mORE THC, which inturn makes the buds more potent.
now take two clones from the same MOM
leave one inside ..in a controlled enviroment with all the love and care it can
and compare it to a clone placed outside
where grasshoppers are eating leaves and jumping from branches...
spiders biuld webs inbetween branches
rain beatin down on her..storms blowing her to the ground...drought...over
It will produce a more potent protection
Time 19:33, 4 Dec 1998
From Vic High
Mota - I too have have found that I get
better buds when MH is added to the
Lady J - surprise surprise eh?
Anon 1743 - you must think you are speaking
with the ignorant. Most pages
keep a log of where you came from and where you go next while surfing. A
couple of web-site operators have emailed me thanking me for linking their page
to mine and have mentioned that a good deal of their customers come from
BCGA. They know this from those typical logs.
Knowing that there are individuals such
as yourself out there trying to flex their
egos, I usually make hotmail a stop between all webpage stops so that you can't
see where I came from and where I go from here. I pick hotmail simply because
their front page loads quickly. Still waiting for the email. A real hacker would be
able to email me at my legit ISP :)
Time 19:01, 4 Dec 1998
hi i am waninting to grow hydro can you
give em some pointers
Time 17:43, 4 Dec 1998
vic always reads his e-mail before he
comes here. vic is a creature of habit
Time 17:08, 4 Dec 1998
Mota Were the clones from the same mum?
Eric They would'nt be if you were 52% north you have no idea what its like. Ot1
Time 13:46, 4 Dec 1998
sorry Vic..but this set up has got me thinkin about somethin
Mota...thats cool...everything i have
ever had inside or outside was always better
Time 11:40, 4 Dec 1998
White Widow Update:
2 clones flowered
1 indoors under 80W sq.ft (400W MH)
Both harvested at approx. 10 weeks.
Dried and cured for 5 weeks.
The outdoor had a better smell and taste, but to my surprise the WW under the
MH has a stronger high/stone.I believe this is the "edge" that Oldtimer is
talking about.Any comments?
Time -1:18, 4 Dec 1998
From Vic High
Eric - you have alot of questions, but
this is new to me and I have little in the way
of answers. I was just a meare tourist passing on what I saw. But I'm just as
stoked as you. Had a meeting with my partner tonight and we are thinking of
playing with the ideas though :)
ky-skank- I've yet to harvest sweet tooth
so I have little advice to offer. I'm not
sure if this helps, since it is unavailable, but the grapefruit mother of sweet tooth
blows romberry out of the water with respect to potency when grown under high
intensity lumens. They are somewhat comparable in my garden.
Budm - glad all is working out. I remember
many instances of not being sure
what was happening with the garden. Hell I remeber not knowing when I should
water for fear of root rot. Hell, the garden was so dry, a cactus would have been
thirsty, haha. Now it's second nature. I'm sure sexing preflowers will be second
nature for you from now on and you'll get a chuckle next time you read a post
asking the same questions, haha. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I thought
nothing bad of your posts. Just happy for ya.
Anon 20:20 - what the hell is walla walla?
Is that another name for coastnet?
Sure, just to prove a point, I'm still posting without a proxy, and still no-one has
had the ability to email me at my legit ISP email account. I'm making it as easy for
you as I can. Want me to print the addy for you?
Time 13:17, 2 Dec 1998
From lunchtime poster
ky, go with the cinderella 88 from brothers
grimm.it has a somewhat fruity
taste and a most excellent sativa buzz. it does cost a bit more than the upper
end of your price range ($85/10 last i heard) but is well worth every penny and
the speed of delivery is incomparable.
Time 12:56, 2 Dec 1998
From ky-skank (firstname.lastname@example.org)
looking for an opinion on the sweet-tooth
strain from s.o.l (taste,potency) Vic,
how does your romberry compare in these two areas? I'm looking for an
exceptionally fruity tasting strain with much potency for around $50-$60per 10
seeds.(strapped for cash!) any suggestions? Thanks!
Time -2:36, 2 Dec 1998
From Vic High
Eric - yep - fishtank water instead of
tap water. and yep - roots just hung in the
airwith no added support. they just follow the water down and therefore stay wet.
Trelaway - I'm another who would be interested in hearing of your results.
Aeric - I too have had one of those monsters.
When growing out romberry, I'm
usually more interested in selecting males, but one girl (RBL-4) caught my eye.
Hate to tease you bud, but the clones from her are even better! It's now as big
as a 1L coke bottle and looks as it may finish as big as a 2L coke bottle. This
would be a first in my low light mushroom patch..
sb- how ya doing bud?
Time 20:32, 1 Dec 1998
I grew out some of Viv's Romberry and they were all excellent but I
had one that was a monster 4' tall and only one single cola 4' tall......and in my
usual lazy fashion i didn't take any cuts.....so make sure you take at least one
cut from each female as a possible mother.....still kicking myself for letting it get
Time 20:03, 1 Dec 1998
My ten BCGA blue and romberry took ten
days to arrive from Heaven's stairway
and Richard answered my emails within 24 hours.
If anyone's interested I'll be starting
them shortly after X-mas.
Time 15:22, 1 Dec 1998
this 3 foot area for the roots...was it water or air....from reading your description it
sounds like air.
If so were there misters spraying the roots in the area????
was there some sort of plastic mesh for
the roots to sit on at every foot length ? or were
they just hanging the whole three feet.
Time 13:08, 1 Dec 1998
are you saying that it started out with water from the fish tank and that was pumped into
another resavoir that led to the tubes.
instead of tap water he started with
fish tank water????
Time 12:52, 1 Dec 1998
ya he feeds them normal fish food pellets....as
for the emitters its all just filtered pretty
good.........but yathey still clog.. :((
Time -1:08, 1 Dec 1998
I just wanted to sayhello!
Vic .......whatup G?
Time -2:07, 1 Dec 1998
From Vic High
Hey guys, just back from Vansterdam.
Finally got to meet with Breeder Steve.
He's quite a generous guy with his time, and boy can he roll big joints! He rolled
a J of brand X that must have been a whole 8th! Rope will get me stoned, so that
was way out of my league.
What did get my attention was his aquaponic
setup that he calls "The
Sweetwater System".It employs a double res setup, one typical, and one
being a fish tank loaded with fish. Water in the two res's are exchanged
regularily (something like every hour). He says he never cleans his fish tank, as
all the plants and bottom feeders use up all wastes. Plants are fed with drip
emmitters via the typical res. pH doesn't fluctuate and the ppms remain between
300 and 400.
Now these drip emmitters fed two setups.
One was a traditional "dutch pot"
system. You know, the one where each plant is grown on a 5 gallon pail? He
used a 5 or 6 inch basket that was 3/4 filled with those red balls (I think they are
an expanded clay called "hyrotron"?). Steve then covered the red balls with 1"
layer of a blend of worm castings and "Steve's Special Blend". The Special
Blend (2-6-5) is an organic mix comprised of green sand, rock phosphate, fruit
bat quano, feather meal, steamed bone meal- regular & fine, kelp meal,
sunflower seed hull ash, canola seed meal, cotton seed meal, alfalfa meal,
langbeinite, corn gluten meal, pyro clay, diatomaceous earth, and calcium
peroxide. Initially, the low nitrogen surprised me, but then after I thought about it,
I realized that the plants were probably getting all the nitrogen they needed from
the fish tank. I believe there was an air stone in teh bottom of each pail. Seven
weeks ago Steve planted tomato seeds into the medium and now the plants are
3 feet tall and have softball sized green tomatoes on them. WOW!
The second setup was basically a large
table, 4' high, covered with something
like 1/4" dense plastic. Holes were cut in it to hold the 4" or 5" net cups. Again
the cups were filled with the reddish clay balls and topped with the special blend
and worm castings. Again the net baskets were fed with drip emitters. What
interested me is what happened under those net cups.
A large pond liner tarp was suspended
under the net cups to catch the water
and funnel it back into the typical res. There was about 3' between the bottom of
the net cups and the bottom of the tarp. And you know what this means?????
LOTSA ROOM FOR ROOTS! Big roots equal big buds in my book. This feature
had me totally stoked!
I'm one that has had little respect for
the hydroponic side of our hobby for some
time. I've watched others playing with the large numbers of clones and shaken
my head (legal risk). I've watched them fight pH drifts and shaken my head. I've
watched them fight root rot and shaken my head. I've watched them lose entire
crops due to pump or power failures and shaken my head. I've watched them
pumping in the chems (hurting the environment) and shaken my head. I've
watched them be proud of their 1-2 lbs per light in their high intensity gardens
and shaken my head. Well I've stopped shaking my head for this one. Steve's
way of working with the Dutch Pot system seems to take care of all my
hydroponic concerns. I just wish I wasn't too stoned to have asked him what he
fed his fish and why his emmitters didn't clog.
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