TOPIC - Delay 24 hours....
DATE - 22:21:17 2/01/100
FROM - happy traveler
Stuck in a rut. 24 hour set back....will contact you soon.
MG
TOPIC - Bongblaster
DATE - 22:39:35 1/31/100
FROM - watchin em fall
#3 or is it #4? Is this just another coincidence?....
TOPIC -
DATE - 19:30:42 1/31/100
FROM - Vic High
I got this spam mail today, thought a few may be interested.
To Whom It May Concern,
I have written and published a book on ozone that may be of interest to
you
or your associates. The book is mostly about alternative therapies for
treating most all disease using ozone to its fullest potential. It not
only
states the risk factors we face in our daily life but how ozone is used
as
the solution to these risks. This book covers most all air and water
applications of ozone including the use in food processing. Some of these
applications you may be aware of and some may be new. This vital
information can help save lives! You can use it as a tool to promote new
customers or share with old clients. In any case, it could be a great asset
just knowing the information it contains. If you love ozone you will love
this book.
A description of its contents and a picture of the book can be found on
my
web page at www.foothill.net/ozone and click on to "The Breath of Life"
button at the bottom of the page. The book can be ordered on the last page
of the products section or you can send your order to me directly.
Discounts apply on larger orders. Book price is only $22.95 plus $4.50
shipping in the US. Get it while supplies last!
Sincerely,
TOPIC - Computer Problems
DATE - 14:51:11 1/31/100
FROM - Black Budget
I and some other friends experienced internet related problems in that
time frame. HOWEVER, keep in mind there was
a MAJOR snow and ice storm that hit the D.C. Virginia area that Tuesday.
Since major Internet portals, routers, and
circuits concentrate in that area, no surprise. Word is a couple of major
switches and circuits went out.....
TOPIC - Still more unpleasant surprises ... oops!
DATE - 13:40:40 1/31/100
FROM - Moo Goo Gai Pan
Yet Another one bites the dust ... do bad things come in three's?
There was a press clipping from AP ( Associated Press ) dated the 30th
that said the NSA had a "serious computer
problem" last week. "This problem ...did not affect intelligence collection,
but did effect the processing of intelligence
information."
It said that the computers went down on Monday at 7 PM and went back up
on Thursday ... about 72 hours.
It also says "Contingency plans were immediatly put into effect.".
Does this period coincide with computer problems folks have been experiencing?
TOPIC - BongBlaster
DATE - 11:14:26 1/31/100
FROM - Marcel
Please do not send any orders to seedbank.com All sales are on hold for
the next few days.
BongBlaster is currently a guest of the state in Spokane W.A. More information
will be coming forward at the end of the
week. Also an Auction to raise funds .
The above can be verified through his current attorney Christen Phelps
Donation can be mailed to Mr Phelps ( he is listed in the phone book although
information will be posted as soon as it's
cleared by Mr Phelps)
This information was verified through Mr Phelps as well as a Phone call
from BB today( Collect from the jail). We at RI
are only a source of information. If you are interested in helping out
please contact us at the above email address.
There has been no compromise on the business issues. The Seed-Bank .com
sever is still secure. BB and the seed
bank are separate insulated entities.
No shipping records are involved. A request for the server information
has been denied, from our Canadian office and
email information has been removed form the server.
Marcel
TOPIC -
DATE - 07:12:21 1/31/100
FROM - Vic High
the hack attempt has happened twice; Jan7, and 22. I'm pretty sure who
the second one came from, it happened right
after I authorized him on ICQ. But if I'm wrong????
Like I said, on it's own it's no big deal. I just don't want to blindly
ignore the subtle signals if you know what I mean. The
fact that two of those recently busted were tied to the inet is what caught
my attention.
Hey maybe some lurking hacker can get some meaning from the intelligence
report? I was just happy to close the
door, but results of this could be interesting ;)
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(12.32.8.48)
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7 oc3-sea-2-bctel.starcom.net (209.153.195.97)
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TOPIC - paranoid we should be
DATE - 18:05:21 1/30/100
FROM - meduser2
saw a show a while back on how the police use the net to bust chucky child
freaks. i did not see where they were
busting people through ip's. what the cop was doing was emailing the "pedo
freak"and setting up deals to send films to
him when they got the films they checked for fingerprints on the film "typical
police work" then they eventually set up a
meet. then the bust would come down. i've got a feeling that they needed
more then just people talking bullshit on
message boards-but they sure got it via emails and packages and meets.
don't remember but i think this was local
police work, not the feds. bottom line line is busts can and do happen.
lots of times you never know where the info
really comes from. cops lie you know!! i know that i've run under a proxy
that i check on the tamos site and i use
protectX for hackers. don't know for sure if either works but it helps
the noia.i have never sent or received a package
from any indivual or email contact. and i don't grow at home anymore.
if i get busted over the net cant say i didnt have fun. lol
vic, did your hack come when on one of the boards or through another way
icq? just wondering, quit mirc because of
that.
stay sane, fuck it they cant put every body in jail since were already
in one in the great usa.
TOPIC -
DATE - 16:19:26 1/30/100
FROM - ultra-sane
only a fool would believe we were not being watched! that, i would expect,
has been going on since day one. it's why i
have wondered about the sanity of why we are even here exchanging our useful
anecdotes with each other...it makes
no sense.
the only possible use i see is showing whatever powers-that-be the fact
that we believe in what we are doing and will
not be denied our right to exist and function in a way that poses no harm
to anyone...even ourselves.
i will not fall into that dark hole of paranoia...
TOPIC - Whats "Lime Green"
DATE - 13:32:10 1/30/100
FROM - Thunderfuck
Hey everyone,
Anyone knows whats a lime green stian and whats the big deal about it?
Thanks!
TOPIC - noia
DATE - 12:21:25 1/30/100
FROM - Vic High
DT - just general noia. Nothing concrete for the most part, just many small
bits of info pointing to a bigger possibility.
Just listening to the instincts that have served to save my ass over the
years, hehe. My mind works in a twisted way
and asks weird obscure questions. Like when the media is simply reporting
BS from a cop, what is the cop's motive for
making such a statement.
And for the record, after being exposed to a fair bit of private and inside
info, I see no indication that any of the recent
busts are the result of the internet. But I do see a link to the internet
in two of those cases. Suggestions that two of
those busted were on a list of internet investigations and or watchdogs.
Whether these internet investigations would
have ever lead to a bust, who knows. However, it is obvious that the internet
is being watched, but we already assumed
that. right? Overall, nothing has changed except our suspicions have been
confirmed.
But all in all, nothing concrete and mostly noia.
TOPIC - Internet & Govt.
DATE - 10:42:59 1/30/100
FROM - DT
Vic: Are there definitely confirmed "problems" or just general 'noia? Interesting
side note: Some email that was sent to
me thru HotMail ( non mj related) came thru with a date that was THE NEXT
DAY'S DATE. When I asked the sender to
trace the route, he told me it was "diverted right before it got to the
Hot Mail Servers" where it picked up the bad date.~
Also, certain other Public free mail sites have been acting wierd past
few days. Keep your eyes and ears open folks! I
hate to say it, it may be theirs, but it is a WAR nevertheless that's going
on. Keep that in mind.
TOPIC - The shit may come down ... maybe not.
DATE - 10:17:06 1/30/100
FROM - whozits whatzits
There's no telling for sure what the DEA and the rest of the Feds are up
to ... but one things for sure, no matter what:
... they'll take the easy way out. If they think they can make a easy sweep,
with various state and municipal forces
doing the heavy lifting, they just might do it. ( Even though they have
Much bigger things to worry about than reefer. )
It's just politics. In the final analysis, it come down to that. The Cannabis
Community is a tempting target because it
gives the Feds a chance to show that they are "computer hip" and are "doing
something about Internet Crime", setting
up the reefer straw man for another go round, while at the same time they
Know that the chances of meeting any
resistance are very slim.
Look, they don't Ever do raids with less than overwhelming force, bust
the doors, masks, body armor, the whole bit.
They especially don't want to chase Meth labs where rural white trash might
be wired-up and heavily armed to boot. As
for the Latino heroin and coke dealers, the same goes ... they are both
very violent And have big-buck computer
systems and cryptography that's hard to decipher. By comparison, a bunch
of pot-heads are easy pickings. Big
headlines - minimal risk.
Dig it: crime is Down ... they need a phony "menace" to keep themselves
employed while not risking any physical
harm to their ample asses. Plus, they use the busts as a funding source.
Heck they've even stooped to confiscating a
kids video games!
Whether or not they actually do a "big crackdown" is another question entirely.
Canada is a Big problem for the Feds,
since they can't do an international operation without Canadian cooperation,
and there's too much money coming into
the Northern economy as a result of the seed/weed trade.
Even though the "Justice" department might not want to jump into this thicket
right now, federal prosecuters on the
local level are Always looking for ways to make a big splash and pump up
their careers. ( Look at Gulliani in NY ... ).
Postings through proxies should be the rule, preferably via one that's
based overseas. Also, someone should post
another complete list of privacy sites and instructions.
Vic, did you inquire of the sysop at mauimail if they had any problems on their end recently?
Everybody hold your breath and stay cool.
TOPIC - kickt16
DATE - 07:49:54 1/30/100
FROM - Squaeky Fraen
dr evil,..sir.
hey 4&20 yeah.
ihad to do that one time.
igot a jane. named pooper15(smellsbabeypoopy) that's pretty kickt
ta meÖ
got uruly though after awhile and so I had to move her out
she was slow to harden and eventuually did leather up rite
so we'll see if it was worth the time sinse idont make clones ovem
much. she better kicxkasumask+ after all that[:o]>.
setmaker-sir. at your service
.
TOPIC - i-net activity
DATE - 06:17:13 1/30/100
FROM - bl
we all new the push from the DEA was gonna come. when was the only real
issue.
elections are coming up and those crafty old politicians who backed the
war on us want it to appear to the masses that
it is a successfull war soo... an i-net version of operation Green Merchant
is in the works.
be careful, keep a low profile and change your nic often at public forums
or just lurk as vic suggested. soon it will be
over and things will NORMALIZE again.
TOPIC - mold prob ... help
DATE - 05:59:30 1/30/100
FROM - 4&20
i got mildew on my DAB. never had it before
it was in the middle of my budding plants. none of the others have it that
i can tell. i moved the plat out of my grow and
hope to save it.
the leaves have a spotted white appearance
looking to order some sm-90.
does anyone have any sage advice.
TOPIC - dr.evil, red light and photoperiod
DATE - 03:40:27 1/30/100
FROM - rx
Sounds like its worth a try. Please let us know if you reach any conclusions.
TOPIC - Theory on light manipulation
DATE - 23:43:55 1/29/100
FROM - Dr. Evil
Hi all,
Hope all is going well. I managed to get my bids for 3 haze crosses at
the A-1 mini auction, so I'm a happy camper.
I have a theory that I'd appreciate comment on concerning lighting/dark
periods, and a way to manipulate them to our
advantage. A poster at overgrow last month posted something that made me
recall something from a plant bio course I
took in college. Here is the post in its entirety.
KQ
Member posted December 05, 1999 09:26 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Phytochrome is a blue-green pigment found in all plants. It is found in
two forms; the Pr form absorbs red light (660 nm)
and is converted into the Pfr form. The Pfr form absorbs far red light
(730 nm) and is converted back into the Pr form.
Pfr is also slowly converted to Pr during the dark phase. The net transformation
from the inactive Pr form to the active
Pfr form during the course of a changing photoperiod affects the flowering
mechanism (Hartman, H.T., W.J. Flocker and
A.M. Kofranck. 1981. Plant Science Growth,
Development and Utilization of Cultivated Plants. Prentice-Hall, Inc. pp.
676). Interruption of the dark phase (night
break) by a brief period of light can inhibit flowering of short day plants
and initiate flowering in long day plants. Red
light (incandescent lamps) are commonly used to effectively produce night
break.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
OK, here is the idea. During the dark period, if Pfr slowly degrades over
a period of several hours into Pr, and Pr is the
hormone which is causing the flowering response, why not hit the plants
with a burst of far red light at the beginning of
the dark period, to rapidly change all of the Pfr into Pr in moments, rather
than hours.
I think this might be a worthwhile strategy to shorten the total flowering
period before harvest. If, for example, the
normal flowering period includes say, 6 hours for the Pfr to degrade, and
the plant is exposed to 6 hours of Pr at full
strength, could you not reduce your dark period to 6 hours with the far
red light at the beginning of the dark period, and
still achieve the same flowering response. In turn, that would make your
days 18 hours long (total day/night cycle,
maintaining a 12 hour light cycle), which in theory would reduce time to
finish by 25%. It might also help tame those
difficult tropical sativas (OT1, you out there? :) ) . I suspect that tropical
sativas either produce less total phytochrome,
or are less responsive to it, so this might be a way to trick them into
picking up the pace a bit during flowering. At least
it should be easy to test out. Any comments appreciated.
Be Safe
Dr. Evil
TOPIC -
DATE - 14:13:17 1/29/100
FROM - Spraen Fraen
when i went to draw the walls lately (as always) they were
complex,they were bigwatched, and i search out the virginbrick.
god,
imust learn to waatch where im going, caause it was the cli
mbing undeer the threw, that spelunkt, andkept my
attvention,bent my brush,crushed my rocks,blindly
fiddled w/ the faded shadowsnsmoke, and almost got mouskbit
mcdisneyfied squared, statuestaticfrancist..then canonblasted
4daze w/a borrowed broken mechanical pencil, that workthard
dead script
to no avail, the unryt, (and i mean like could not make the simplest voice).
otherwise r pitchspaeldark
digitallianmazed intercept didn't and will notwork. and then,
like a
moon beam (prolly witha twinklywinklybodinkly ..but it looked pretty ordinary
actually)(godhelpus)..
wanyway, shined softlywoftly.
and there, where the blankn'acorner.. uhÖnext to nothing,
or at least ajacent ..if.. there was already a scribble: o
dam'n shite,&mothjerfackhre,roosterpumpr,twiddledeeless,mo...
and then crawled out to see where thafact...
.
iamfraenkgoin'totheblank.
TOPIC - safety
DATE - 13:22:11 1/29/100
FROM - Vic High
There have been subtle hints that The US feds may be stepping up their
interest in cannabis online. I've just noticed a
few small things like my bcga email account acting up and I nabbed someone
trying to hack into my PC. Then there
are the weird posts like the anon below and the troll at OG and Cann.com
trying to stir shit with A1 auction. Plus a
couple other things where the interested parties have chosen to keep private
for some reason. I disagree with that
decision, but it's not my call. Each of these seem innocent enough on it's
own, and probably are. However, I think it
would be prudent for everyone who isn't already, to play it safe when it
comes to posting here and other public sites.
Like maybe limit yourself to lurking if you are surfing from your grow
location. Many already are, myself included.
I don't think lurking can be dangerous in any way and it does give you
access to info. Communication is the best
defense. And helps one make informed descisions. For most, I don't think
anyone outside of the US has anything to
worry about. This warning is more for those living in the US. I'm probably
reading more into this than nescessary, but
caution can't hurt.
TOPIC - anon bait
DATE - 13:01:08 1/29/100
FROM - Vic High
I think your second name says it all
well either your Jay or Webby (yeah right!!), or sticking your nose where
it don't belong (more likely). If any of the
concerned parties are still in the dark and need to know, there is nothing
stopping them from making contact from a
safe place. If they haven't, it's because they've chosen to keep their
distance. Those with better access to them have
been informed and asked to pass along the info. I've shut down most avenues
of communication so troll pig, find
someone else to jump through your hurdles.
TOPIC - tsk, tsk, Vic
DATE - 11:47:51 1/29/100
FROM - bored member
aeric77
Member
posted January 28, 2000 08:38 PM
.......Vic......
...............very.important.that.you.read.my.icq.or.talk.to.skoosh.......relay.info.to.our.friends.and.to.webby.and.jay.......
http://www.cannabisworld.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000031-2.html
TOPIC -
DATE - 10:05:37 1/29/100
FROM - Vic High
which post?
If it concerns you so much, and you feel it's that important, then get
off your as and post it. Don't be waiting for others
to do it for you, you are just as responsible for passing along info as
anyone else.
TOPIC -
DATE - 08:42:06 1/29/100
FROM - board member
vic would you please treat people responsibly and forward the info from
aerics last post at CW.
TOPIC -
DATE - 19:37:34 1/28/100
FROM - ncga
VIC and Jay would you get in touch
Thanks
TOPIC - my apology
DATE - 23:02:49 1/26/100
FROM - mm
my apology for going off topic, but I wanted you all to get a chance to
sign this petition if you were interested. great
sight!!!
TOPIC - sign petition if you will
DATE - 23:01:26 1/26/100
FROM - mm
Hello,I thought you might be interested in this petition. Please
sign and pass it on...Workplace Drug Testing Reform
Click here to sign this petition:
http://www.e-thepeople.com/petition.cfm?PETID=290675
We believe that mandatory drug testing in the work place is
faulty, an invasion of our privacy, and deters qualified
workers from applying to jobs; thus negatively affecting
our economy. Under the present system, everyone is being
tested regardless of what their job entails, and this is a
blatant violation of their rights. We ask that U.S.
legislators recognize this common violation, and bring
about legislation to help end these harmful practices, or
reform the system already in place to narrow the scope of
testing so that tests are given only with probable cause.
TOPIC - digital camera
DATE - 07:17:26 1/26/100
FROM - Vic High
Thanks for the thoughts sharecropper. My scope is a binoc dissecting scop,
not an actual slide microscope. I prefer it
for my needs as it allows me to look at the 3D anatomy of whole plant tissues.
It has 10X eye pieces and a choice of
2X and 4X main lenses making for choice between 20X or 40X magnification.
Not enough power for checking out cellular
structure, hehe.
The test shots I posted were at the 20X setting, need more light and less
coffee to get a decent shot at the 40X setting,
hehe. I shrunk those images down a few steps to make them easier to load,
but was stoked at how well they turned
out considering I didn't know what I was doing, hehe.
I see alot of potential here.
I agree a tripod won't work, I will need a mounting device that will allow
my camera to ride up and down with the scope
as I focus it. The sample shots I posted were done simply by balancing
the camera on the left eyepiece. Being hand
held, the focus was a bit tough, but for the most part, they turned out
better than I hoped for. I think I'll hit the metal
shop and grab some precision tubing to make a mounting bracket. I'll make
it so it will snuggly hold the camera firmly
against that eyepiece. Then I'll just have to get on top of the lighting
problem, but I don't expect that to be a big deal,
but I'll ask a few questions at a local camera shop for ideas on what will
enhance the natural colours the best. I'm just
stoked than now I can share what I see under the scope. May not be the
best quality, but it looks like it'll get the job
done ;) In addition, when I get a full blown scope, I can't see why it
won't work on it either, same focal length ;)
any thoughts?
ok, off to check out that link, thanks :)
Oh yeah, you hermie king you, hehe - maybe some of the RO people here can
give you some water softening tips. No
experience personally.
TOPIC - Up close and personal
DATE - 16:30:54 1/25/100
FROM - ShareCropper
Vic,
Saw your post about digital photomicrography. Difficult with the built
in lenses most of the digital cameras have. If you
cough up the bucks and get one with a C mount then its much easier and
you have a wider selection of lens
magnifications. Assuming you have a binoc and not a trinoc stereo scope,
the only way to go is through the eyepiece.
Check this site out and see if your camera is on their supported list,
should help. Setting up a tripod and trying to focus
through the eyepiece doesnít usually cut it.
http://www.stillwtr.com/leadapter/
Grew out 10 Romulan Surprises and 6 NCGA BlueBells along with a few ìhomebrewsî
based on an NCGA PR. Of the 4
female RSís all hermed lightly except one that did not and one that went
overboard, it was also the tallest. Both of the
BlueBell females hermed in the main cola. Bummer. The one RS that did ìsurviveî
produced some very tight pear
shaped buds. All are cloned so if the budís good...... Just waiting on
the cure. I do have a serious hard water problem
that I have tried to ignore but it seems to stress the ladies out with
the resultant nutrient lockup. Iíll have to fix that
problem. All tips are appreciated.
SC
TOPIC -
DATE - 14:19:47 1/25/100
FROM - the dayhiker
irish - thanx for the help
ot1 - good to see you too buddy! hermies? no friggin way man!
take care folks
TOPIC - fishtank
DATE - 09:52:42 1/25/100
FROM - rw
Im looking for a page that has a build your own cpu tank.
Kind like you pick the tank fish and decorations and the page displays
what you pick. I have been there befor but dont
remember whre.
thanks in advance
TOPIC - Jack's thrips
DATE - 07:32:01 1/25/100
FROM - Vic High
Jack, they sound like thrips. I found a couple a few days ago. I nuked
them with safer's soap. I wish I waited till after I
got this new camera, then I could show you what they looked like. However,
follow the link above to BCGA's main
page and there you will find a link to various pest pages. One will have
a picture of thrips at various stages of growth.
Good Luck
TOPIC - critters
DATE - 00:17:04 1/25/100
FROM - jack
Hey peeps@ i noticed on my plants some little, long narrow critters of
some sort. if you touch them they jump alittle.
they are tan or white, i seen something flying around . any idea on what
they are and how to kill them? thanks for your
time.!
TOPIC - finishing a bean
DATE - 08:57:29 1/24/100
FROM - greenbean
how dry does it need to be.
seems like lately my beans are made,in bout half time. they
seem ready sooner than used to. i really like the moms and dont want to
take (ogod) achance on loosing them by
changing
them to quick.
other times jus dont think, dont look, dont see, sleep,
dream.and cant remember memoruy freaked new grandad wow.
please forgive.
so on. forward.
TOPIC - thanks vic....
DATE - 21:50:38 1/23/100
FROM - anon
i'll definitely be bidding on those beans.
TOPIC - The root of your problem
DATE - 20:57:55 1/23/100
FROM - Sneaky Pete
Rotten: Af had a bad case of rot in a big GH aeroflo setup due to too high
nutrient levels(partially). It damaged the roots
and they got covered with brown slime. Knucklehead also let light get in
by the drain tubes and algae grew like crazy,
and was less than hygenic overall. It got to the point that no amount of
bio bran, or cannamax, or h202 would reverse
the damage. A few actually were saved and moved to an E&F setup, and
caused no further contamination of other
plants, after sitting in sick bay for a few weeks. Big aeroflo sits in
storage, while it is time to learn to drive with a new
aero 30 in test lab A. 23 days in and roots are still pearly white. Low
nutrient levels and h202 are being used. There is
still a lot to learn. Can you offer any tips/observations.
I think Pusherbetty beat her root rot problem a few months agoÖ or at least controlled it. Prevention is key.
TOPIC - esb/ romberry x ak47
DATE - 20:16:06 1/23/100
FROM - pi
waddya wanna know?
this is from memory heh so i might be off a little on some of the details
-germinated 10 beans. all 10 popped but only 8 sprouted.
-6 males 2 females
-was about 36" when i started 1212 which was too tall
-seemed like it finished around 5.5-6.0'. prob hurt its final weight. i
believe i got a little over 3z's dry wt.
-went 67 days
-the buds were tight and not overly resinous. they were almost olive green
with darkish golden hairs. they looked like
miniture dreadlocks.
-do not recall much smell
-the taste of the first go around was a very pleasant sweet taste with
a hint of a sour aftertaste.
-hi was very nice up hi. washed all my dirty dishes (all the dishes in
the house ;0) ) with the first joint. the hi comes in
waves and is long lasting 4-6 hours
-like all smoke you can buildup a tolerance to it
-reveged it to get clones but i lost all the clones due to a heat prob
i had at the time
-the resultant smoke on the reveg was not as good as the first grow. dissapointing
yield, taste and bud structure
compared to the first grow but still nice.
-it is reveg for the second time and it is taking forever! as ot1 said.
-it is a keeper in my book and i will evetually grow out the remaining
seeds i have to get the best mom i can.
would be more than willing too compare smoke of any other growers in order too get the best mom
oh yea ... imho it would be a good sog plant as it grows columnar in structure.
next time i grow it i will not top it (i
topped the 2nd female) and will grow it in 6" or 8" pots. it had few fan
leaves but a fair amount of smaller leaves. i would
consider it to be a better than average as far as trimming goes.
cant waite to grow the es.
romberry x ak47... a foaf grew out a seed he found in a ak47 i grew. the
ak had been pollenated by a romberry.
i highly recommend this cross as having vg potential. unfortuately i lost
the ak during my heat problem. i hope to get a
clone of the akberry as it was cloned but the clones were mixed with jack's
cleaner. this was an accidental pollination
so i would think that it could be improved on.
TOPIC - root rot
DATE - 17:28:35 1/23/100
FROM - rotten
Hello,I have a question I hope someone has the answer to.
I've got a bad case of root rot in my aeroponic system and
I have tried several products and have had limited success.
I have done some research on the net and found a page that suggests using
Benomyl-50 systemic fungicide in the
reservoir with the nutrient solution.
My question is does anybody know how much to use in a 32gal. res tank?
Thanks rotten
TOPIC - sorry strider
DATE - 16:23:05 1/23/100
FROM - Vic
- cut them blueberries dude, I've found that they are like Aeric's CO clone,
longer you flower, the more you get, but at
the expense of flavour.
TOPIC -
DATE - 16:21:03 1/23/100
FROM - Vic High
anon, those beans are for the aeric auction that will follow the cleanup
of the A1 auction.
Billy Bud - right below the pic there is a link to the BCGA main page.
Check it out, you will find a soil page that will
provide a few soiless mixes. I'm biased, but I feel the super soil mix
with the worm castings rocks, haha. It's idiot proof
for the most part.
Hey Pi, there many looking for an unbiased grow report on ESB. If you get
time, we would really appreciate your
insight ;)
whoo hooo!! got a new toy, going back to playing with it in a few minutes!!
Looks like I will be able to take pics of what I
see on the dissecting scope!! May have to built a bracket to improve the
quality, but never expected that bonus. These
smart cards look interesting as well, looks like a good place to hide sensitive
info ;)
TOPIC - esb1 / ot1/on cloning
DATE - 14:34:18 1/23/100
FROM - pi
peaceness... i grew esb1 and ot1 is correct in that it is very slow to
regenerate. it also has a hi rate of males when
grown from seed.
ot1... have been looking for that product you wanted but have not seen
it lately. if my memory serves me
correctly...www.ecogrow.com carried it at one time but they no longer list
it on their site nor their hardcopy catalog
was having a difficult time cloning. w/o going into all the details my
most recent cloning rate is 20 of 23. the only thing i
am doing diff is i went back to the cleanliness i had gotten away from.
new razor blades...clean my scissors
thouroughly and than dip in alcohol...spray and clean the entire area with
Clorox cleanup before starting.
a friend of mine was getting 100% from all his clones using straight tap
water in vases painted black. drawback was
time... it took 3 weeks to develope bumps. he has since added air curtains
to a small plastic container and shortened
the time to about 7 days or less and he gets roots not bumps. he adds nothing
and uses no cloning powder or solution.
the plastic container is filled full of water. the cuts are placed 3 per
3/8" hole and the air curtain is postioned so that the
bubble curtain is directly in line with the row of cuttings. somewhat diff
than, cheaper than and easier than the
areocloner that is so popular. less than $20...
gonna try it myself as i already bought the stuff ($10). will update. will
also try dipping some of the clones in cloning
solution to see if that helps even more.
TOPIC - esb1
DATE - 13:48:27 1/23/100
FROM - pi
peaceness... i grew esb1 and ot1 is correct in that it is very slow to
regenerate. it also has a hi rate of males.
TOPIC - ot1 / green giant
DATE - 13:10:37 1/23/100
FROM - irish
my friend has been playing with this same clone for over a year... has
had it indoors and outdoors... no sign of it
leaving his grow any time soon... this is just the first time he's let
me post a pic of it... also the first time he has had
them so big, (changed systems numerous times, plant matured, grower matured,
finally worked out most the
bugs/quirks, etc...)
i still won't believe the hermies thing... i won't i won't i won't... LOL
TOPIC - seeds and soiless
DATE - 11:39:25 1/23/100
FROM - Billy Bud
I live in edmonton alberta and i need to make a lot of soiless any one
have a good formula, also dose any one know of
a good strain that grows this far north
TOPIC - hey vic....
DATE - 08:04:00 1/23/100
FROM - anon
are you gonna put any of those c99xgrapefruit up for bid???
TOPIC - Vic...trelaway...
DATE - 06:20:21 1/23/100
FROM - Strider
Hey... guys... a question for you. I have a couple of blueberrys close
to finishing. Any optimum time to harvest as far as
taste/smell go ? The girls are at 8 weeks and I have noticed"that fresh
berry smell" seems to be diminishing. About a
third of the bud hairs have turned and stalked glands are still mostly
clear. Tia.
TOPIC -
DATE - 06:07:39 1/23/100
FROM - oldtimer1
peaceness esb1 is a selected clone grown from esb seeds I sent to AF in
98! Selecting a keeper is what it is all about!
You have enough that you should have no problem doing that! As esb is slow
to regenerate once flowered It is worth
keeping backup cuttings of all the fems untill you have selected your favourite
then you will have your esb1 or whatever
you want to call it.
I think it should finish ok in so-cal the later esbís finish 10 days after
the later romberries indoors and they finish ok in
so-cal!
irish the "feminised seeds" will go in the bin. Although as the et mumís
clones are normally stable, they could be
interesting I suppose! Why you would in denial that I would ever experience
hermies I donít know! It seems inherent in
equatorial sats, they seem to have a built in time clock as to how long
they have been growing and photo periodic
changes have a lesser part to play when it comes to flowering. When you
think they have two 6 month seasons and
the total time variation over 6 months is 2 hrs! From 11 to 13 and back,
at the maximum point of change it is only a few
minís a day. So keeping vars with a lot of these genetics in require a
slightly different growing methods and
understanding! As well as a more rigorous selection for genes that will
stand 18 hrs of light, and more to the point the
shock of the sudden cut to 12 hrs of light!
.. left them when they started making chocolate cake and giggling.>>
Hmm sounds like it has some up energy I like weed like that LOL! I hope you kept a backup cut!
All the best Ot1
TOPIC - ot1
DATE - 02:07:09 1/23/100
FROM - irish
i am sure they don't measure up to the haze x's you seem to have such a
fondness for (not to mention expertise..)
hehe, i am in denial that you would ever experience hermies, but seriously
awaiting the "feminized seeds"... LOL
as far as potency... whew. amazed, even with the bigbud portion (and all
its rumors) lemony sweet skunky bud. great
crystal, mmmm the taste... the bros really did a good job on this one.
this plant is so stealthy when growing, stealthy when flowering, stealthy
when cut, but keep a little nugget in your
pocket for more than a minute.... funk of the skunk... no hiding that...
had to help a friend do some handy work at his parents, and both of them
kept staring at me, walking close. i was
totally on the spot..LOL... until the dad handed me some orange rolling
material... left them when they started making
chocolate cake and giggling...
TOPIC - miguel herrera
DATE - 01:48:43 1/23/100
FROM - rx
Look down in the posts on this board. about two weeks ago there was apost
with a link to geneticly altered tomatoes.
there was a free seed offer. mine own english ain't that terrrific!
TOPIC - ot1, clearing
DATE - 22:47:33 1/22/100
FROM - Peaceness
OT1: sorry to hear about the herms. am stil so intrigued about the esb
potency an yields, have yet to sow mine. By the
way, are esb and esb1 the same? do i have the esb or the esb1? Also, when
do you think esb will finish outdoors in so
california? will be sowing my od seeds in about 3weeks or so.
clearing: i am at day 47 with apollo 13 and romberry. doing ebb n flow
in rockwool. just filled the reservoir with fresh
water only. and am planning to feed straight water till day 60. does this
sound right? should i go for a longer or shorter
clear? is it too early to start claring for the 60 day romberry? i hear
that the plant will use the nutes stored in its system
to finish off the plant. am trying to avoid any chemical tastes and am
going for a clean burn.
-Peaceness
TOPIC -
DATE - 17:34:17 1/22/100
FROM - Freinky
oh and thanks trelaway, irish, all
TOPIC - Cannabis Culture
DATE - 13:17:24 1/22/100
FROM - Freinky
hey yall.
was cieged with an inspiration to take a few proxyfree days.
was headed to the tank in case i needed to be tortured and just
stopped by on the way.
and saw the C.G. info. thx.
i am groing over to CC minyawna and dont know much about cluture.
i have been to other countries before w/out forsight or preparation
and know that an unknow accidintal offense in the best intentions
can wreakp havoc through un understanding as well alterstandings,
etc. etnertia... (ie ..sometimes grins are taken as a show of teeth.)
any other travelers obs?
TOPIC -
DATE - 12:10:30 1/22/100
FROM - oldtimer1
Irish those are very nice looking buds you posted at OG! Whats the potency
like? Whatever well done!
Vic you sandist you!
Hi there dayhiker nice to see you, I reckon your best bet long run is to get a cheap Ro unit!
Now to my bit ======>
I have just had a minor disaster with my latest grow. I have been experimenting
with time changes when initiating
flowering! one of the main problems we have is some of the pure sats get
so tall using 12/12. Well I initiated flowering
with one week of 12/12 then switched to 11/13 untill stretching stopped
[3 more wks] then went back to 12/12. Well
they stopped about 2 ft shorter than normal and the etís were not much
taller than than the haze hybrids and on par
with the esbís. Well last the weekend I noticed a few brown hairs on most
the plants, so looked as best I could for
male flowers couldn't find even a stamen. Tues there were a lot more brown
hairs so I took all the plants out one by one
and the etís had full male flowers inside the bud clusters never seen a
hermy like it. Iíve been growing et for over 18
years and have seen her produce the odd single stamen if I took flowering
past 14 wks but nothing like this. I had
noticed the effect of one hour less light a day had reduced her height
from an av of 7 to about 4 ft, but would have never
thought she would hermy like that! the es, esb, 4 types of haze hybrids
and C99 have stayed hermy free! So I have had
to chop all 8 et and calculate I will be lucky to av 12 grams per plant
and this from a clone that easily makes 50 grams
per plant with 2.4 plants to the sq ft ie she easily makes 4 oz per sq
ft and has done nearly double!
Conclusion it pays to test on a small scale and this old fool dint do that!
Its an expensive lession as the remaining 70
fems are lightly seeded and this seriously reduces the amount the buds
grow I am seriously pissed with myself!
All the best Ot1.
TOPIC - dayhiker
DATE - 11:50:46 1/22/100
FROM - irish
two weeks is about right.
can do it once a week, but if buying distilled from a store or distributor,
they may get a little curious. probably won't
relate the use to this hobby, but have a back up story.
"refilling my fishtank with only the best" or "koi pond gets a little low really fast"
also topping off the solution will have to happen mid cycle usually (when
doing every two weeks) general thought is
"half strength" on the refill. but check ppm and adjust accordingly.
TOPIC - information about tomahigk
DATE - 09:06:46 1/22/100
FROM - miguel herrera
i´m from spain and my english is very bad but i want information
about "tomahigk",i want some seeds for make one
salad :) please said something to me,thanks. how i can take this?
TOPIC - Irish
DATE - 07:36:53 1/22/100
FROM - the dayhiker
Hey, thanx guy, but I lucked out & found a distributor that sells distilled
cheap, after you make the deposit on the 5
gallon bottles that is. Anyhow, how often should the solution be changed?
I seem to recall reading every 2 weeks
somewhere but I might have been hallucinating. Can ya help me on this simple
question?
thanx
TOPIC - cannabis culture mag
DATE - 22:20:42 1/21/100
FROM - trelaway
I've bought the mag a number of times over the years and have never found
it interesting enuf to buy the next month.
I pick it up periodically to see if things have changed but it has yet
to fascinate me even once--a single article would
do......
Adbusters magazine, for those interested in sarcasm and parody, rocks.
TOPIC - critique
DATE - 16:38:27 1/21/100
FROM - C.G.
We've been critical of High Times in the past, so it's about time to let
fly at out bretheren North of the border at
Cannabis Culture.
There are several pervasive problems need to be addressed.
1. The combination of very small type on top of photos or graphics is Very
hard to read. The same goes for all the
reversed-out text.
They should top trying to be cute with the layout ... it's confusing.
2. The editorial position of the magazine is clear. There is no need for
"rah-rah" cheerleading and grandiose
pronouncements. The
content often reads like a High School newspaper, maybe worse.
3. The "martyr" bit is always overplayed. The politics of the situation
are much more complicated than they would have
the readers believe, but they are not helping the
situation by being strident, shrill, and angry. Second-rate cartoons of
cops with guns are the lowest form of
rabble-rousing.
In addition, they need to find writers and editors who know fact from fairytale.
Case in point: page 61 of the Nov./Dec.
issue. The
description of the Eleusian Mysteries was woefully deficient, and any assertion
that ergotamine was even partially
responsible is
pure supposition. There are no written records of the Eleusians, and little
in the way of accurate description since the
penalty imposed by the Greek government for revealing these teachings was
death! It is possible that rye grain was one
of the ingredientsin the beverage, but no one is really certain. People
who have spent years studying the group, and
digging at the site of their
temple, still know very, very, little about them. If Mr. Czolowski knows
better, let him publish in a reputable, scholarly
journal, instead
of running off at the mouth with rank speculation and second-hand drivel.
Anyone else?
Just curious.
TOPIC - vasaline???
DATE - 21:16:59 1/20/100
FROM - Vic High
Out of the night came a scream.....
Who put sand in the vasaline?
TOPIC - the power of vaseline
DATE - 17:04:46 1/20/100
FROM - meduser2
a friend sent this to me and i was needing a good laugh and this joke did
it. hope nobody minds.
The Power of Vaseline
This guy has always dreamed of owning a Harley
Davidson. One day he has finally saved up enough money
so he goes down to the dealer.
After he picks out the perfect bike, the dealer tells
him about an old biker trick that will keep the chrome
on his new bike free from rust. The dealer tells him
that all he has to do is to keep a jar of Vaseline
handy and put it on the chrome before it rains, and
everything will be fine. He happily pays for the bike
and leaves.
A few months later, the young man meets a woman and
falls in love. She asks him to come home and meet her
parents over dinner. He readily accepts and the date
is set. At the appointed time, he picks her up on his
Harley and they ride to her parents house.
Before they go in, she tells him that they have a
family tradition that whoever speaks first after
dinner must do the dishes.
After a delicious dinner everyone sits in silence
waiting for the first person to break the silence and
get stuck doing the dishes. After a long fifteen
minutes, the young man decides to speed things up, so
he reaches over and kisses his woman in front of her
family. No one says a word.
Emboldened, he slips his hand under her blouse and
fondles her breasts. Still no one says a word.
Finally, he throws her on the table and has sex with
her in front of everyone. No one says a word.
Now he is getting desperate, so he grabs her mother
and throws HER on the table. They have even wilder
sex. Still no one speaks.
By now he is thinking what to do next when he hears
thunder in the distance. His first thought is to
protect the chrome on his Harley, so he gets his
jacket, reaches in his pocket and pulls out his jar of
Vaseline.
The father says, "Okay dammit, I'll do the dishes!"
TOPIC - Police State
DATE - 08:59:20 1/20/100
FROM - Revolutionary
Just when you thought the Constitution actually protected your rights,
Uncle Sam has other plans!
http://www.wired.com/news/lycos/0,1306,33779-1,00.html
All I can say is, keep voting for these guys and keep sending them your
money.
TOPIC - Naming the New strain - Go for the Marketing Coup!
DATE - 21:16:47 1/19/100
FROM - C.G.
Vic: That new strain/cross you're working on with California Orange ...
why not just go ahead and call it "Orange
Sunshine" ??? It's already got great "brand name recognition", and the
real thing hasn't been seen in over 30 years. Go
for it!
TOPIC - T2
DATE - 19:49:16 1/19/100
FROM - Vic High
T2 long time no see. Been thinking of you lots lately but not sure how
to get in touch. I owe you buddy and would like
to fix that up. Can't remember if things are the same for you or not.
bcga@mauimail.com
TOPIC - Skools In seshion.
DATE - 19:46:50 1/19/100
FROM - Sneaky Pete
High-See, check this out..
AF has had success moving 1"rockwool cubes into 5" baskets of hydroton
in an E&F setup and watered 15 min every
3 hrs, no problem. Also has moved 1" cubes into aeroflo with success, key
here is add a lot of rocks to the bottom of
the cup, keep water level in tubes just below rw cube or it will stay soggy.
Cover the top of cubes completely with gro
rocks, or you get algae for sure. On that note keep the res covered and
all holes too, over plant holes and drain tube
access or algae will grow. Anything dirty that gets introduced to that
warm oxegenated nutrient solution will grow into
The Thing, and then it will attack your roots, so keep it clean from the
get go.
Never tried 4" cubes in the aero, but suggest keeping water level below
cup and let the cube sit in splashing/humidity.
Soggy rockwool is bad. Using that much non-inert medium is a potential
ph nightmare(as if aero isn't tricky enough)
You want your roots out of the cube and into the bottom of the pipes so
the rw stays dry as possible, prolly should
flush the rw from top down every couple of days. Just guessing. New things
are learned everyday, check my posts with
aero starting this month.
Observation: rooted cuttings placed into 3" net baskets and gro rocks blast
new roots out of mostly the bottom of the
cup, cuts in cups lined with polywool then gro rocks shoot new roots out
of the sides and bottom, and at 20 days can't
even pull the cups out of the aeroflo anymore, root growth is all intertwined
and am beginning to trim roots away from
the drain tubes. Girls are begging to flower at about 6" but have to wait
until the end of month until system is full. The
polywool took an extra day or two to root out, but the plants are much
WIDER .
Also some gro rocks like Hydroton(perfectly round) have wicking properties,
while the popcorn ones(like GH sends) do
not wick. Isn'tthatspecial.
TOPIC - dayhiker
DATE - 17:52:10 1/19/100
FROM - irish
you can fix the hard water problem by using about an 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon
per gallon of water (my friend used 1/2 tsp to
five gallons, no problem, then moved on to reverse osmosis) , always better
to let the water sit, and do the lime, but not
necessary.
also epsom salts will work to combat the nute lockup caused by hard water
same measurements. (but preference
leans toward the lime)
TOPIC -
DATE - 16:56:55 1/19/100
FROM - Vic High
oops, last sentence should be
Also, some additional background on Aeric77's situation can be found below in post 29068
not A1's
Thanks to all :) :)
TOPIC - hello all! - hydro question
DATE - 16:55:39 1/19/100
FROM - the dayhiker
Sorry to hear about A77 & would be glad to help any way I can. Would
like to say hello to the folks I haven't spoken
with in a few weeks as well as the new names
To all you hydro folks - do I HAVE to use distilled water in my ebb &
flow? Stores are still empty thanx to Y2K scare &
I can't find any. Was thinking of letting tap water set out for 2 days
but won't the minerals screw up the system?
thanx for any help
TOPIC - SEED AUCTION IS OPEN!!!!!
DATE - 16:53:59 1/19/100
FROM - Vic High
Finally!!!
the doors have been opened on the seed auction script. We are christening
it by cleaning up what's left over from the
A1 legal defense fund auction. Some of the
best beans are still available and the funds will go to A1's lawyer to
help finance his California case. This will help the
auction host work out the bugs in preperation
for the Aeric77 defence auction as well.
http://www.cannabisworld.com/cgi000/auction.cgi
In the meantime, all those willing to donate genetics for the Aeric77 legal
defence fund, please contact me via email or
through the private message feature at
Cannabis World. (sorry for the CW spam, not sure how else to
spread word). Discussion is taking place here on what is happening:
http://www.cannabisworld.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000031.html
Also, some additional background on A1's situation can be found below in post 29068
http://www.cannabinoid.com/wwwboard/seedbanks/messages/29068.shtml
Thanks to all :) :)
TOPIC - heeeeeeeelp
DATE - 16:49:31 1/19/100
FROM - High-see
K guys here we go ..
a bit on the room...
4'x 3'x w/variable heigth aprox 2' now 400w MH at 8-10" in 1"rockwool cubes
placed into 4" rockwool cubes I've had
them on 1/2 strength rockwool formula one I topped them at the 2nd node
and they are all showing topgrowth but one
and that one is the ugliest thing I have ever seen I gave them half strength
rockwool form 1 all perked but the one and it
is still alive just looking very very ill I guess I could loose the one
but really dont want to but I do have other strains I
would like to get in their also
more importantly I need some help with a watering and nute. regimen as
I have never played in the rockwool before I
hear "nahhhh you cant over water less you leave then sitting in standing
water ...then I hear let the RW get almost
completely dry before watering again I am hand watering right now so I
can give the healthies 1/2 strength hydrafarms
bloom for the high P and the sickie 1/2 strength of the R.W. form. #1 but
am soon as I get the thing built going to
aeroflow in pvc tubes but its gonna ne a day or three so I need to know
how often to water the rockwool the PH of the
h2o in the cubes is 6.0-6.2 so I dont think it could be lock out specially
when the others are doing fine ...cant figure it
out ...heeeeeeeelp meeeeeeeee
any ideas , suggestions or hints will be mucho apreaciated ...MUCHO!!!
thanx guys -n- gals
take care -N- be safe
High-see
TOPIC - blueberry
DATE - 16:27:10 1/19/100
FROM - t2
hey vic i finally started those bberries ,one of them is a polyploid
TOPIC -
DATE - 10:45:53 1/19/100
FROM - occam
Unfortunately, threats were directed at the old guy after he turned in
the grow last year. The media jumped on it, and
that's what will stick in some memories. Seems to me that the further we
distance ourselves from violence, real or
implied OR imagined, the better off we all are.
TOPIC -
DATE - 09:04:44 1/19/100
FROM - KQ
See? we need more handyman laws, not more drug laws! NOT
TOPIC - killer druggies in vancouver
DATE - 20:01:20 1/18/100
FROM - trelaway
Seems the terrible druggies had nothing to do with the double murder reported
below. It was a handyman who'd been in
the couple's employ.
TOPIC - Romberry
DATE - 15:30:56 1/18/100
FROM - Wadsworth
Vic - my romberry plants are getting near harvest and I have to complement
you on breeding a very tastey and potent
plant. The buds are crystally and have a noticable taste to them. Because
I'm using small containers, 44oz cups, the
yeild is very small. I'm going to use the current plants as mothers by
regenerating them after harvest. The blueberry
female that survived the cat is smaller than the romberry, not as potent
but just as tastey. The purple passion plants
are quite tall, 4'+, but not ready for prime time. Many complements to
you Vic for breeding romberry, a superior plant
that will continue to be grown in my neck of the woods, er, I mean,I'm
in NYC, my corner of the block!
Bravo Vic, viva las Romberry marihuana plantas!
Wadsworth
d;^)-~
TOPIC - rebarnys
DATE - 15:19:43 1/18/100
FROM - barney
you candoe whatevr with my name [:o]
.
TOPIC - C'mon in, The water's fine.
DATE - 10:54:30 1/18/100
FROM - Sneaky Pete
Mr. M : Things like that do happen :]
O.G. : AF has decided to take the indoor to a new personal level. Has had
success with E&F, and hand watered semi
soilless. The plants grow fine in soil and has worked best companion planting
in the veggie garden and greenhouse.
Things can easily get buggy inside with castings even, so they try to stay
away.
IMO nothing beats the sheer beauty of an outdoor stand shining in the midday
sun. Some people are content with
watching the grass grow, some are interested in remaking "Attack of the
Killer Tomatoes". The ones who succeed
know not to F with Mother Nature too much.
E&F was the most wasteful with weekly dump outs of 1800ppm solution 50 gallons each res.
The next level with the aeroflo would be an addition of a bioponic life
system and constant circulation between the two.
Fish waste water could be perfect for that setup after some tweaking.
Cowboy: UPDATE: The ladies stood straight back up, and look great. I suspect
that if they were shocked the leaves
would droop a little, but this time the plants lost all turgidity and looked
like microwaved spinach, but 24 hrs later they
are fine. (Don't know if this is the right way of saying) Was the water
drawn out of the plant because the mix was too
salty? This is high school science, I know.
I think bi-weekly partial res changes with lukewarm water and mild nutrients are the way to deal with this.
Vic: Thanks for letting me take up space.
TOPIC - Sorry for using the Sneaky Pete nick
DATE - 06:41:12 1/18/100
FROM - Mr. Mistake
Sneaky Pete: Just realized that I'd used your nick in a post in the Overgrow
Shark Tank a few days ago ... . I'm not
sure whether I'd seen it before and it lodged in my subconscience, or if
it was second choice to "Mad Dog 20-20" ... . In
any event, sorry for sowing confusion. It won't happen again.
TOPIC - Hydro...just say no
DATE - 20:42:42 1/17/100
FROM - Hank Scorpio
"... but they look like freaks of nature,
Frankenstein buds, unclean mutants crawling forth from the dark sewers
of science."
LOL!,absolute poetry! :-)
TOPIC - Various & Sundry
DATE - 19:00:34 1/17/100
FROM - C.G.
occam: Yeah, that's a nasty story all right. There's no telling what spin
the media will put on the situation, but it doesn't
look like a big weed problem so much as a big junkie problem. Unfortunately,
many ordinary citizens can't distinguish
between the two.
Vic, Sneaky, Lothar, & Jay: Every time we see a post with expensive,
complicated, store-bought, contraptions, and all
that hydro-hoodoo, we just have to laugh. A rotating garden? For crying
out loud, this is lunacy! It might even work, but
for crying out loud, why bother?
Isn't it hard enough to get HID lighting and good ventilation happening
indoors without making things even More
complicated? Heck, if you're going to put That much work into it, why not
just put the effort into a Job, buy your weed,
and have money left over?
This is agriculture folks ... getting your hands dirty is good for your soul.
When growing takes that much tech tool tinkering and chemical weirdness,
when it takes constant attention and all
sorts of extra crap that can't be recycled, it just isn't worth the hassle.
Heaven knows what it does to the poor plants!
We've seen those shots of huge plants and monster tops posted online with
hydro this and hydro that, but they look
like freaks of nature, Frankenstein buds, unclean mutants crawling forth
from the dark sewers of science.
Anyone ever see "The Day of the Triffids"?
Just curious.
TOPIC - Hot and Cold
DATE - 17:16:08 1/17/100
FROM - Sneaky Pete
Cowboy, Using cool water never seemed to be a problem in other hydro systems
AF has tried, but today ???, so they
were thinking one of two things. The plants were wilting because of shock
from the cold water, or the batch mixed up
today was too hot. The aeroflo has been up and running for two weeks with
today being the first full res change, the
system was being topped up with very mild nutes, 2 gallons every 3 days.
Clones with small roots were inserted in a
few sites, the other sites were filled up with fresh cuttings to try rooting
in this system. Lots of roots on the pre rooted
ones, and some of the testers went crazy with roots in 9-13 days others
are parked and losing colour rapidly but
showing significant bumps. Fully rooted ones showing much new growth and
are very squat with much branching
although a few twisted leaves on 1 or 2(MrNice.) Intial formula was GH
1-1-1 at 1/4 strength. Today was a drain and
refill at new 1/4 strength GH 1-1-1 @ ph 6 where it has been kept at constantly
since day 1, except the solution was
pretty cold. It could have been the new mix was a little stronger than
the old and it caused an R/O effect and made the
plant wilt. We all probably have seen a water deprived plant regain it's
turgor in under an hour, and we are hoping we
will see the same as long as the new mix wasn't so hot it damaged the roots.
We wont know the condition until
tomorrow. We conclude that a much lower Ec is maintained in this recirculating
system than in other types of growing.
That Bugbee paper suggests not ever completely changing the solution, but
it was noticed in the aeroflo after a few
days the res developed that 'organic' smell, much like a fresh water fish
tank. All holes in the res/ tubes are covered to
prevent algae. Is it better to have a weekly full change or a twice a week
partial change? H2O2 is being used, but I
asked about the ozonater a few days ago. Ebb and Flow was cake compared
to this.
TOPIC - tumble weed
DATE - 15:34:55 1/17/100
FROM - jay
yes lothar a nice setup indeed,i have seen the contraption your talking
about and have seen the video...all i can say is
ahhhh...if we all do the math 160 sites at minimum 0.5 o a piece thats
80 ounces with 2400 watts of power...no heat
problems and optimum use of co2 can only make it work better,like 1 ounce
a piece..plants are very thick and strong
because of the movement..your clones need to be vegged in a table or something
in 4 inch oasis or rw cubes,i think
this may be the thing of the future...
couple of drawbacks i see is one there isnt alot of room for roots,they
just bunch up in the 4 inch tube holding it and
they cant get real big,another is the spin motor and or drive belt,if something
should happen to either of those you
would be in for a surprise thats for sure...
TOPIC - cold water
DATE - 13:55:54 1/17/100
FROM - cowboy
Hey sneaky,a friend uses cold(winter)(only water available at the grow)
tap water to change res and his hands turn blue
when he is hooking pumps back up and never has this caused any shock at
least not so you would notice it.Are you
sure you didnt pound them to hard with nutes or add something bad?I would
double check the nute strength and the
PH.
Hey Lothar,what kind of dollar figure are we really talking for the rotisserie
grow?Actualy at some site a while back
some people discussed/invented something that sounded very similar.
later
TOPIC -
DATE - 13:35:06 1/17/100
FROM - Lothar
To all those that frequent Van.
Just went to a new shop that sells only one product, its a rotating garden,
pretty cool really.
The shop is located on marine drive about 2 or 3 driveways after you get
off of the oak St. Bridge. right hand side.
I checked this thing out for about an hour, only fault I can forsee is
the amount of space inbetween the bulbs(water
cooled 400's) and the base of the plant.
Sorry a short discription:
6" pcb pipe 8-10' long with 4" holes drilled through.
a 6" piece of 4" pipe is placed inside the holes on the long pieces-...so
basically the pots are just a piece of 4" pipe
open at both ends.
The long pipes are placed on a large wheel (about 5 foot)
like a ferris wheel plants faceing inward.
A string of water cooled lighting runs down the center.
Rotation takes about 70 min.
At the bottom of the rotation the bottom tube (the only one that is faceing
straight up) has jets of water sprayed
upwards into the open bottom of the pot (timed with a photo synth dealy)
This is no toy for sure it looks great....don't know how it will work for
our crop standards (they have a vid Im going to
check out) but they had pepper plants in it they where wide with large
stalks.?? The price about $10,000 cdn
aproxamatly $18.34 American
In there defence it triples the space used so if this works it will work
real well. Its about 6' hi 6' wide and however long of
tubes you use. Like haveing 3 pipe dreams.
Cio
TOPIC - stupidity
DATE - 10:12:16 1/17/100
FROM - Sneaky pete
Man, am I stupid. I changed the solution in an aeroflo today with water
that was too cold, and subsequently shocked
my plants( they are drooping like mad). I've been mean to plants before,
and they survived. will these pull through?
TOPIC - Paradise Lost?
DATE - 15:22:34 1/16/100
FROM - occam
A very tragic, disgusting story, underscoring the violent revenge posts:
http://www.vancouverprovince.com/newsite/news/000116/3446822.html
I can only hope that the general public understands that growers are for
the most part non-violent. Unfortunately, I
expect LEOs and lawmakers will use this senseless tragedy to make it appear
otherwise.
TOPIC - and furthernore ...
DATE - 14:44:29 1/16/100
FROM - Scratch & Sniff
Vic, pi, & Been There:
Didn't know that A-1 had been growing that much, that openly ... only knew
that he had the medical bit covered ... .
He's made himself a martyr, for better or worse.
Lots of good advice below ... glad to see it. One other little reminder:
Don't Ever believe Anything the cops say to you in
a stressful situation. They are under No obligation to tell the truth!
Here are a few examples: "We have you on
videotape.", "You left your fingerprints." , "Your partner has already
ratted you out.", "Your wife has confessed.", "We
don't need a warrant.",
and especially, "You don't need a lawyer."
One other little thing: when that troll was here recently spouting violent
revenge against snitches, we were reminded
that having Any firearm in proximity to a grow ( in the same house ) can
be used to bring charges of "using a firearm in
the commission of a felony". Even though William Renquist and the Supremes
recently put a crimp in these cases, it's
just not worth the risk.
The cops are absolutely Terrified of guns, and finding one during a bust
only reinforces their belief that All growers are
violent drug dealers who need jail time.
Remember, the cops are just people ... they are as lazy and shiftless as
any other group of HS graduates. They want
an easy days work with as little stress as possible. If you don't make
it easy for them, you're likely to slide by.
TOPIC - Cubic Orange
DATE - 14:39:37 1/16/100
FROM - bonk
Hello there Vic
Cubing a clone that is as widely distributed as Ae's CO is interesting
indeed.A wholly different prospect from Mr.Souls
cubing of princess.
Any one of the holders of this plant can start the process and the resultant
eggs can then be distributed for
serial/parallel development in the cubing process.A community effort to
be sure.Any grower with the clone and
CO.50/CO.75/CO.88 etc eggs can take the next step.
peas
TOPIC - magnets
DATE - 14:21:52 1/16/100
FROM - trelaway
If you have a pair of dead speakers around, the woofer magnet (the biggest
speaker) is very powerful, esp. if you have a
quality sound system.
TOPIC - Cops Continued 2
DATE - 11:42:02 1/16/100
FROM - Been There
Check out this addy. I printed it out and keep a copy in my vehicle glove
compartment and posted on the wall to remind
me!
http://www.midtel.net/~reply2/25tips.htm
A high powered ceramic magnet is VERY useful for wiping diskettes clean.
You can pull em out of old microwave
ovens or buy em at Radio Shack and other places. Data CANNOT be retrieved
from diskettes if done properly. And of
course, DO NOT bring magnets around any computer disks that you DON'T want
to loose!
TOPIC -
DATE - 10:12:02 1/16/100
FROM - oldtimer1
Vic did you get my mail, the server was a little flaky again.
TOPIC - busts
DATE - 09:29:35 1/16/100
FROM - Vic High
Sound advice Pi. Both Ae and A1 are friends but agree that they had very
different styles. A1 was very open and a
security risk, many feel he was asking to get busted. But on the other
side, he is being used as a political pawn as
you mentioned. I helped him because he was a friend, many others helped
because of the political reprocusions.
Ae is nurotic when it comes to inet security and was probably one of the
smallest risks to the inet community.
However, a search warrant is a sign that he screwed up somewhere in his
peronal dealings. And like you said, they
have no family leverage on him and nothing politically to gain. The investigating
team just has their pride and credibility
to protect after spending so much energy investigating him. My motives
to help him is because he is a friend. Others
may want to help because of the subtle ways he has improved many of our
gardens. Or simply to help one of the good
guys do less time out of compasion. One nice thing is that Ae has decided
to stick around and communicate with us.
Not alot of help to a canuck like me, but the first hand experience and
discussion may be valuable to many of my
neighbors to the south. I get the feeling that Ae represents the worst
case scenario for american growers. I think it's
good for american growers to get a realistic view of this worst case scenario,
it may help motivate them to clean up
their act as was suggested below, hehe.
For the record, I too feel that we need to be careful in how we help Aeric.
Having the dirty work done from a non US
based outfit is the smartest route, IMO. And careful thought each step
of the way to make sure our efforts reach their
intended destination. Since we are aware if the situation, it will be easy
to do :)
TOPIC - Cops Continued
DATE - 09:12:22 1/16/100
FROM - Been There
Just putting an exclamation point on some the points made below:
1) NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER tell the cops ANYTHING!!. In fact, you
don't have to say anything unless a
lawyer is there. The cops will tell you "yeah, we really didn't want to
bust you, we don't like the laws either, just doin
our job" and then to proceed to pump you like Monica on Bill for info!
If you feel you have to give info, make sure its bad
info.
2) NEVER EVER let em in without a warrant!! When two cops came to my door,
which by the way I didn't even open,
and tried to talk their way in for 10 minutes, I told them to go get a
warrant first and slip in under the door. They were
hopping mad, but thats what they did. AND that took em and hour and half......
3) You may want to think about the ultimate: having a plan of escape. I
personally will NEVER do time in a Nazi prison.
You may want to have cash and id documents, passport, etc in a safe place
at the ready if you have to flee. Also
contacts with "friends" who could hide you or assist you in your "travels"
to safe haven. Not for everyone, but
something to think about.
Doesn't it suck that we even have to worry about this shit at all? I feel
like an first Century Christian in the catacombs.
TOPIC - and for God's sakes
DATE - 07:16:53 1/16/100
FROM - pi
... if you use AOL... get rid of it like YESTEDAY!
TOPIC - more
DATE - 06:53:17 1/16/100
FROM - pi
-yes they did get his puter and that was one of the first things they carted
away
-he saw a women cop get on his puter who was very pc literate
-he has a thread going at www.overgrow.com @ the shark tank and i am sure
he will answer questions within reason
-the cops have a program that will recover wiped info from your hd and
they used it on a-1
Suggestions:
-get into the habit of del'ing all info of this type on a weekly or at
least monthly basis using PGP and a 3xwipe. i believe
that anything beyond an 8x wipe is non recoverable so if you 3xwiped every
week only 3 weeks info could be recovered
-use a proxy server period. a foreign based proxy would be best
-you can chain proxies and the anonimizer multiple times if you are really
noid- at the expense of surfing speed
-if you use icq you need to be aware that a del message is not del but
put into a deleted folder. the message archive is
where you need to go to make sure all info is deleted
also...
be proactive on your precautions...
-odor control
-mouth control
-greed control
-stupidity contol
-karma is important
-seperate your grow trash for your house trash
-if you vacuum invest in a vac dedicated too your grow only
-change grow stores periodically
-avoid parking in front of a local grow store as vid cameras are cheap
-get a safe addy
-
one should assume the worst case and prepare for that as well. What is worst case? YOU get popped.
-never keep any reciepts of grow equip and remove all price tags and bar
codes. they will try to date your grow
-pay taxes on your gains if you do sell. the irs has a form for gardens.
would be bad enuf to have the DEA on your ass.
-number your pots do not write strain info on them as that may help date
your grow (example: 4 pots with 4 diff strains
written... hmmm 4 grows)
-have a story concocted
-NEVER give them any info period NO MATTER WHAT THEY PROMISE. they can
not bargain at that stage so they
promises are lies. once you say something it cant be taken back
-grit your teeth and be courteous
-buy something that will explain hi power usage. a kiln a hottub etc to
help discredit that issue.
-Never allow them access to your car or your house by allowing them to
search on your ok. make them get a warrant.
they may NOT have probably cause or the warrant may be wrong in which case
ALL evidence is inadmissiable.
-make sure you know where all the schools are and how close you are to
them.
-know your local laws
others???????
TOPIC - some info on ae
DATE - 06:07:22 1/16/100
FROM - pi
... a grandpaw and divorced so no family to squeeze
... houses he used were rented
... got rid of his assets long ago
... very paranoid about puter security-ie pgp, bodetect, netbuster, did
not keep many addys (snail or eme)on pc,
reformatted HD at drop of a hat, pushed using this site http://www.zeroknowledge.com/
(look into it all), always used a
proxy, yadayada
... kinda a guy who would not snitch (met him on a couple of occasions)
... was considered an asset to the community
... cooperated with the fuzz (within reason)
... has a prominent local politician as his attorney
a-1 was not commercial? i think not. he had 300 plants and his statements
on his usage helped the state dispute his
claim of med use only. personally i think a-1 is and was 10 times the risk
ae is.
a-1-
... flaunted his grow
... thumbed his nose at the feds
... the feds want to make the case a landmark case against med usage
... puter illeterate
... talked mj to ANYONE who would listen
... posted his real (i think) phone no on the net
sorry a-1. no offense intended. just want to put things in perspective.
TOPIC - scratch and sniff
DATE - 05:30:00 1/16/100
FROM - thc-positive
thanks for the enlightenment. looking forward to more profound thought
from you...do you know of any sites where we
could find more information about the feds and how they operate?
TOPIC - Is it time to clean up your act?
DATE - 22:52:18 1/15/100
FROM - a local
scratch and sniff makes salient points though...
TOPIC - correction for scratch & sniff
DATE - 18:23:00 1/15/100
FROM - br549
doing federal time you do 85% if you don't lose good time.
there is no parole. but you can gain 15% for being a good
boy or girl. 10 year sentence = 8.5 years. still no fun people.
TOPIC - Is it time to clean up your act?
DATE - 16:30:07 1/15/100
FROM - Scratch & Sniff
Sad to hear about A-77 getting busted ... but there still may be time to
keep * your* ass out of a sling.
Anyone who has had direct E- contact or mail contact with the dude should clean up their act now!
Make no mistake, the Feds might be slow, but they are thorough. They have
probably already cleaned out his
computer ( whether he knows it or not ) and since this was evidently a
major commercial production, they will lean on
him big-time.
All of his phone records are certainly under review, and there has probably
been a pin register on his number for a
while. Same goes for his postal contacts. They can review return addresses
without a warrant.
Keep in mind what happened to A-1 ... one of the very first, and most effective,
threats the cops will make is "We're
going to take away your kids and throw them into foster homes." The Feds
and their local henchmen are especially
nasty in this regard. They bully, threaten, and coerce, woman with small
children as a matter of course.
If you have any reason to worry, take steps. If you can move ... do so.
If you have an E-account with a board or a
proxy, change it. Wipe your system and get rid of any and every contact
with the dude.
Having another auction to help A-77 is OK ... but it is another matter
entirely from the A-1 situation. As a commercial
operation, everything the guy owns is going bye-bye. His bank account will
be frozen, all his assets locked up, and
everything of value stripped from his home since the Feds will "adopt the
seizure".
Unless the original warrant is found to be defective, and the chances are
probably slim, this poor devil is looking at a
Very long stretch. There is no parole in the Federal system. You do 100%
of the time.
Any funds going to A-77 or his attorney should be handled very carefully.
It wouldn't be surprising if the Feds tried to
grab it, trace it, or otherwise make pests of themselves.
Now for the good news. The DEA does not, usually, have quick access to
the highest levels of Federal computer
power. There was a very interesting bit on the tube recently indicating
that the heavy Columbian smugglers do business
from boats using satelite computer uplinks to post encripted messages on
bulliten boards. Evidently, when the DEA
and Customs asked the NSA to tackle the encription, it took several weeks
to crack. Given that the program was
produced in cooperation with the cops, there is certainly the chance that
misinformation was being spread, but it
makes sence. ( Remember, the government would Never have approved the export
of stronger encription if they couldn't
already crack it! ).
If you have Anything to worry about, consult an attorney Now! Pay him for
the consultation, and take his advice to
heart. They don't need to catch you with bush, and a conspiracy rap is
Very hard to beat.The laws in Canada are
different, but there is always the chance that conservative elements in
some province might hook up with the DEA to
make a big international stink.
So, let's give A-77 some help, but carefully. We can't do him any good
if we're the next to go!.
TOPIC -
DATE - 10:39:23 1/15/100
FROM - thc-positive
my heart goes out to you a=77. i know how it feels to be violated by those
nazi's. uggggg so how do i bid or contribute
to the help a-77 fund?
TOPIC -
DATE - 18:27:10 1/14/100
FROM - Vic High
Pete - I guess I broke the links when I was reformatting my setup. I think
they are fixed now dude. Feel free to let me
know of any other broken links you find.
I guess I've never mentioned this here, but I've been working on compiling
a list of references to cannabis related
scientific papers. You can find it here:
http://www.coastnet.com/~bcga/journals/journals.html
I am attempting to find these papers and then add them to BCGA for all
of you to review. The most recent paper I
reviewed contradicted current thought and showed a direct correlation between
gland numbers and cannabinoid
content. It highlighted several interesting points such as how vegetative
leaves have similar cannabinoid profiles as their
corresponding flowers. Here's a direct link to the paper.
http://www.coastnet.com/~bcga/journals/Turner1981b/turner1981b.html
Link: Interrelationships of glandular trichomes and cann
TOPIC -
DATE - 16:11:28 1/14/100
FROM - Sneaky Pete
Can any of the seasoned growers impart any of their aeroponic wisdom(general
tips, lessons learned, etc.) I have
searched the archives and would like to hear the first suggestions they
feel they could offer a newcomer to this type of
growing.
I agree with Vic, most of the info I have found on this style of growing
has been from our community.
We are a very passionate bunch of gardeners. He he , Cough cough
Also Vic, some of the older BCGA archives do not work, or is it just me?
Have any of the hydro growers here used an ozonater (sp?) to keep their
solution clean? AF has a large one for an
aquarium setup, not one of those puny "uv sterilizers", a big stainless
steel unit that has a uv bulb the size of my
Uvonair, and input and outlet ports to hook to an airpump and bubbler.
The unit exposes the byproduct of its operation
(O3) to the solution, not the light it emits. The only info I have found
on it's use is that it requires silicone hose. Right
now the top cap is off and it is being used to mask the smell in an adjoining
room.
Of course this info is for a Friend. If They snitch, I'll kill em' . J K
Hang in there Aeric.
"Expect the Unexpected"
TOPIC - Aeric77 fund raiser
DATE - 08:57:30 1/14/100
FROM - Vic High
repost from Cannabis World:
http://www.cannabisworld.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000031.html
Hey, about a week ago one of my good internet friends got busted with over
300 hundred
plants. His bust story from OG:
aeric77 posted January 13, 2000 08:02 PM
********************************************
............on.dec.30.the.DEA.kicked.down.
the.doors.about.5:30.p.m......at.the.farm.
was.myself.and.a.partner......
they.collected.387.plants.and.sent.us.to.
jail.....
we.were.charged.on.a.state.level.for.
cultivation.and.conspiracy.to.cultivate....
..
got.out.the.next.am.on.10k.bond.which.I.
attributed.to.the.fact.that.I.had.been.a.
businessman.in.this.community.for.a.very.
long.time....
....WRONG.....it.was.just.to.follow.me.to.
the.second.farm......which.they.did......my.
stupidity.....anyway.then.they.rearrested.
me.on.federal.charges......
the.feds.called.and.told.me.if.i.turned.
myself.in.voluntarily.then.I.would.be.
released.on. my.own.recognisance......
WRONG.....they.held.me.for.a.bond.hearing.
for.5.days.....local.jail.really.sux....
anyway,at.the.bond.hearing.they.made.my.
son. sign.a.50k.surety.bond.
.......my.lawyer.says.because.Ihave.not.
been.arrested.in.the.last.15.years.that.as.
far.as.the.feds.are.concerned.I.have.no.
criminal.record.
So....I.am.exempt.from.the.minimum.mandatory.
sentence.of.5.years.....the.bond.requirements
.include.piss.tests.at.surprise.times.,
allows.them.
to.invade.my.privacy.at.anytime.they.want.
and.restricts.travel.to.this.county.only..
all.in.all.......it.sux.......
any.questions.guys??????????
********************************************
Aeric has been one of the silent leaders of the internet and has been a
driving force behind
much of the sharing of genetics that has been going on. Word has it he
was part of
encouraging the holder of the g13 clone to release share his gem.
Last night, he asked for my help, and I plan to do what I can. We helped
A1 on many levels
and raised roughly a total of 10K to help him keep his lawyer on side.
I'm hoping we can do
something similar for Aeric. I haven't been able to make contact with RC
since last night's
conversation with Aeric and I definately don't want to step on any of CW's
plans, however, I
would like to get a fund raiser for Aeric under way. I've been holding
onto some special beans
for such an occasion. For those looking for a fast flowering uplifting
high, with unbeatable
flavour, I have some select grapefruit/C99 hybrids for auction. These will
be amongst the best
genetics made available this year for the personal stash grower. Only reason
I didn't make a
commercial batch was becaused I promised the person who shared the grapefruit
clone with me
that I wouldn't use it for comercial breeding
I'll dig through my archives and look for other beans to donate as well.
Anyone else out there
willing to donate, please do. Aeric is up there with the likes of Shabang
when it comes to being
amongst a group that has really donated to the community.
Full disclosure: This will eventually come out so I would like to put everything
on the table now.
As many here know, Aeric is the source of that special 20 year old California
Orange clone
floating around. I've had it for about a year and a half. I really like
this clone, it's the only
newcomer to my garden which I consider worthy to take as much space as
my romulan clone in
high end comercial grows. It being older genetics, it can handle the more
efficient lower light
levels and still put out a quality product. A product that smells and tastes
just like Tang!!
About a month before Aeric's bust, he approached me and asked me to cube
it. He said I was
welcome to use it comercially, but with a catch. I was to give a whole
shitload of seeds for him
to share with his friends and archive. I know this commercial connection
may make my motives
look questionable. All I can say is that my desire to help Aeric has nothing
to do with my desire
to cube his clone.
TOPIC -
DATE - 07:46:56 1/14/100
FROM - Vic High
glistening - different strains tell you they are done in different ways.
You just need to get to know your strains and go
with it. Swollen calyxes, dead hairs (brown or red or??) and the change
of trichome colour to cloudy or amber are just
some indicators. You need to watch then all and not just rely on a single
method, IMO. Some strains will more likely
turn cloudy than amber when ripe.
Anyway, mikado (grapefruit?) is not likely to be the cause of your delayed
ripening, at least not directly. Your delayed
ripening (if that is actually what's happening) is more than likely an
environmental response. Light leaks and warmer
night temps are just two factors that can unfluence ripening rate. Some
genetics will respond to them more so than
others. Good luck :)
TOPIC -
DATE - 07:35:06 1/14/100
FROM - Vic High
Peaceness - hey dude, how goes it? That's an interesting example from Steve.
Have you gotten a chance to grow that
grapefruit clone yet? I think a few in your region have given it a go.
I've been playing with it for a couple of years and
have come to the conclusion it is best suited to a hydro environment. Lothar
grows it hydroponically using chems, I
grow organically in soil. After all this time, I've only had 1 grapefruit
crop come close to the quality that Lothar puts out
and again it was only close. When I first smoked it I was flattened by
it's overall quality and thought to myself I couldn't
wait to see how good it would turn out in an organic grow, haha.
In a basic hydro grow, ever notice how the growth of some strains are improved
and others seem to go to shit? I think
this trend will carry over to the aquaponic setup. Hydroponics is the future,
and I sure like the directions aquaponics
could take it. I too have had trouble finding much in the way of quality
info on it. I did find some seminars on it though
that will be coming up this year. These are non cannabis releated seminars.
I think attending one or two of these would
really excellerate the learning curve and also help create knowledgeable
contacts.
In the end I think it will be this community that will take the concept
mainstream and work out the kinks. I've been
surfing many horticultural corners of the internet looking for advice and
nothing comes close to the flow of info we have
here in the MJ community. I wouldn't be suprised if the mainstream gardeners
don't start learning that the cannabis
pages are the places to learn (if they haven't already). I find hundreds
of gardening sites and message forums, but they
seem to get put up and then forgotten, haha.
Back to aquaponics, (totally rambling this AM, haha) I think the next step
in the learning curve will be happening on
these pages. More of us just need to bite the bullet, dive in, and then
share what we learn. And not think of it as a
marketing tool, thus holding back on various key points. One key point
I'm focussing on is to learn how to build the
nutrient mix added to the plant medium to suppliment what the fish provide.
Sure I could just buy the mix, but I figure
taking the time to learn the specifics will take us further and help more
people ;)
Looking forward to hearing your experiences, I think I will be giving it
a go sometime this year as well.
TOPIC - Aquaponics
DATE - 01:20:28 1/14/100
FROM - Peaceness
Have been going back and forth to different aquaponic sites, not many.
Having initially read Breeder Steve's
experiences with aqaponics, It really got my imagination going, and have
became increasingly interested of the
possibilities and improved quality of the smoke. Said something about aquaponicly
grown grapefruit, and how MUCH
better it was. Well, anyways is anyone currently growing in aquaponics?
Am currently working on a small unit. . I'm
also interested in edibles outdoors. Any good links?
-Peaceness
TOPIC - Harvest time?
DATE - 00:00:05 1/14/100
FROM - glistening
Well, I have a question here I have been flowering for 9 weeks big mac
from federation seeds a makido big bud cross.
Now I have had several crops of big bud they were usually 8 weeks of flower.
Mikado is suppose to be 45 days thus
making Big Mac 7 weeks with my previous crops I picked the exact harvest
day by the white hairs changing to red and
looking at the crystals changing to amber but it has been 9 weeks no red
hairs and the crystals are not changing to
amber. Is this a mikado trait? Does anybody know? Help
TOPIC - BCGA Photo
DATE - 14:17:43 1/13/100
FROM - sensi
Hey Vic! Time for a new Photo up top. That one's been around awhile! How
about some nice Bud shot??
TOPIC - Chirp...
DATE - 13:11:23 1/13/100
FROM - High-see
Istopped by a freinds place today -n- true to his word he has begun the
"sound blaster" testing got one of the little
"chirpers" -n- true enough it does sound just like crickets chirp chirp
chirpin away. it sets about 3 inches from the BB's
which at this point average 65-100 mm's tall going today from flouro.'s
to the 400w metal halide he's hand watering till
they go into the 4" cubes but is doing one cycle every 8 hours bottom feed
w/ a blend of 1/4 strength each hydrofarm
bllom -n- grow with whalf strength rockwool formula one then three to four
times foliar with half strength rockwool
form.#1. they began popping theri pretty little heads up on 01/00 -n- R
putting on top growth like crasy tried to get a pic
to show how its tossed together but polaroid doesnt seem to do the job
...heh go figure once I get over the drain o
resetting up I'll get a digital -n- y'all can get your two cents in. oh
yeah he's got a variety of strasinadge in ...C99
northern lights -n- jack herrer oh -n- a white widow cross Iknow Iknow
their gonna all finish at different times ...the
reason I dont scrog them ...well, that -n- the male thing too heh> k I'm
done sorry its run on like that but its been
awhile ...had a lot to enpart
take care -n-be safe
High-see wwwwwwwwwwww
TOPIC -
DATE - 12:35:15 1/13/100
FROM - thc-positive
ok then just brand them across the forehead with "RAT" that way all will
know and the ostercization will be complete.
TOPIC - story of snitches
DATE - 10:12:47 1/13/100
FROM - charas
This is a story of snitched getting what they deserve.
In the mid 80's,at the height of Reagan-drug war madness a friend was picked
up stepping out of his car by the
FBI-with 6 guns pointed at his head. When asked what he was being busted
for the feds would only say he'd find out.
They interragated him for 8 hrs offering him immunity for turning in everyone
he knew-he wouldn't do it-so they put him
in a holding cell with 6 big black men who were murderers and bank robbers,
lucky he knew karate and when they saw
no fear on his part they became friends.
So this friend went to trial and the Only evidence was two snitches who
said he gathered and imported 20 tons of hash
along with 35,000 lbs of Thai. All the people in the Thai scam rolled over
on each other so there were 14 snitches at the
trial, the 2 who said they knew my friend pled for their immunity got 7
years.My friend lost in the jury trial and was
sentenced to two 8 years terms. He went to fed prison and hired a new attorney
to file the appeal. After 10 months the
appelite court ruled in his favor, the indictment was revoked with prejidice-he
was set free, able to stand tall as he stood
up to the system and didn't become a rat. Over 90% of people arrested turn
snitch, this is a fact. The rats who turned
on him ended up doing their time-way more than he did.
Sometimes the karma is just. Of course it would be better if it was legal
but it's taking a long time to turn around.
TOPIC - Hi everybody
DATE - 08:51:24 1/13/100
FROM - saeid
Ilike veryverymuch this site ,photo,
TOPIC - Snitches and provocations ...
DATE - 08:39:32 1/13/100
FROM - C.G.
Snitchery is always a problem, but one that can't be killed off. Whenever
I see postings suggesting that snitches be
wasted, my very first reaction is that it was put there by LEO to provoke
responses that can be pointed to as proof that
growing boards are fronts for violent criminals and "narco-terrorists".
The "brotherhood" bit is either the wishful
ramblings of a kid with little real-world experience, or useless blather
from a LEO poser who knows even less.
It just doesn't make sence to kill snitches. # 1: There are plenty more
where they one came from. # 2: Once they are
dead, they can no longer be suitably punished. # 3: It plays into LEO's
hands since they have all the guns and it will
just inflate their budget. # 4: It's just too easy to figure out who did
it! Whoever got popped is the prime suspect, and
even if they didn't do it, they are going to have a shitload More trouble
than the original bust if some "friend" decides to
do the dirty work.
The Amish have a way of dealing with these sorts of situations: Shunning.
Nobody in the community will talk to,
socialize with, or do business with the offending party, or any member
of their family, and Everyone in the community
knows who and why.
If we can just make sure that the stain of snitchery never washes off,
we'll be doing well for all concerned.
TOPIC -
DATE - 05:48:07 1/13/100
FROM - thc-positive
well, i can see why they are running amok.
VICTORY FOR CHRIS CLAY!!!! silent prayer...
TOPIC - safe
DATE - 02:24:18 1/13/100
FROM - khan
be safe to one another
TOPIC - thanks to all
DATE - 02:19:09 1/13/100
FROM - rx
To every one - reading over my post from yesterday, I don't want to limit
my thanks for valuable information only to vic,
although his posts are very authitative. Many of you have taken your valuable
time to coax me out of my miserable
misconceptions about growing. Thanks to all!
I agree with every antibrotherhood post. Smoking and growing have made
me a pacifist and I abhor violence. Even the
constant TV depicition of people striking one another in the face is so
repulsive to me I have a physical, gut wrenching
reaction. You people have just got to stop it - shooting each other and
beating each other up. It is the stupidest thing in
society.
Growing puts one in harmony with natural rhytems, like doing tai chi, or
yoga, or zen or judo. I can't immagine how thc
positive can have the view he expresses and be a real grower, too. Smoking
also quiets my natural anti-social
tendancies. It makes me happy, not in a mood for homicide.
TOPIC - snitches
DATE - 18:46:49 1/12/100
FROM - skuffer
i know somebody who snitched on me, my friends red-neck brother. called
the sheriff said i was transporting mj,
sheriff came out looked around, asked to look further, was politely told
"no" and left.
i'm not going to kill him, " i pitty the fool" (to quote mr. t) i just
don't go around him and my troubles have gone away. i
smoke the best ganja in these parts, that is reward enough for this old
hombre. i love my friend and he smokes the
best ganja too, as for his brother, he can join the brotherhood for all
i care.
TOPIC - snitches
DATE - 15:28:09 1/12/100
FROM - arrooo
If a person is dumb enough to put himself in a position a snitch can turn
him in, he deserves it. Nobody visits my grow
room and I don't go around town bragging about it. Do you want to socialize
or grow pot?
TOPIC - snitch control
DATE - 10:13:05 1/12/100
FROM - rx
By avoiding memberships in brotherhoods I have avoided snitches. Do we
criticize in others those faults we find most
repulsive in ourselves?
Vic - thanks to the tips I have found on your board, I am happy to report,
I have the happiest plant growing on my
window sill I have seen in several years. Thanks again.
TOPIC - Snitches
DATE - 09:45:58 1/12/100
FROM - KQ
Can anyone tell the worst snitch story? I mean the story where it seems
that the snitch is "bulletproof" and in the end
they go down in flames bigtime??
TOPIC -
DATE - 07:23:48 1/12/100
FROM - Vic High
I personally wouldn't want to hurt my persoanl karma by killing a snitch.
Basically, you gotta feel sorry for the cowards.
Karma will get them anyway. Local cops almost alsways show the snitche's
statement to you when trying to get a
confesion, so doesn't matter what they tell the snitch. Basically, even
though they will use a snitch, they have no
respect for the bugs and will give them up in a heart beat. Then you just
tell everyone about it and the bug is labelled a
snitch for life. Life will get rough for him without you needing to get
your own hands dirty. You only hurt yourself by
killing snitches, a very dumb idea, IMO. Why become a "REAL" criminal?
TOPIC - killing people
DATE - 19:03:25 1/11/100
FROM - trelaway
just to add, you wanna get cops interested in yer life or yer business
start killing people.
I too started growing because I didn't think risking my safety for some bud was worth it.
I'd gladly pay taxes on my pot. In fact, I luv paying taxes--those that
don't should have a look at personal safety stats in
places like Brazil.
TOPIC - I detest rats, but...
DATE - 17:50:28 1/11/100
FROM - occam
Pi is right.
The main reason I started producing my own material was to stop supporting
violent organized criminals with my
purchases. I will not be associated with any "Brotherhood" that is involved
with violence of any kind.
TOPIC - snitches
DATE - 14:38:59 1/11/100
FROM - pi
ill pass on killin the snitches thank you very much.
let them decide their own fate ala Judas.
cops hate snitches
and most people avoid snitches like the plague
if we started doing that we are no better than the hard liners selling
coke and heroin.
TOPIC -
DATE - 14:25:40 1/11/100
FROM - thc-positive
most excellent thought. very provoking. you all have come to the same legalization
solutions as i have. screw them.
let's keep it in the hands of the people. for the people. by the people.
they can't touch us. let them do their little law and
tax shit and let's just keep on keeping on with the grass growing high
and selling high. they don't really affect us. we
need to rebuild the brotherhood and kill all snitches no matter what! snitches
(used to be extinct) are not running amok
because the brothers have softened. if snitches were killed and the brotherhood
stood together tight no cops could
penetrate this culture. we would be safe from big brother and their bullshit
would never touch us. its much simplier than
decrim, legalization, rewriting laws, lobbying, boycotting, etc. just restore
the BROTHERHOOD!!!
TOPIC -
DATE - 07:04:25 1/11/100
FROM - Vic High
Sevin - carbaryl - is accepted as a fairly safe insecticide. It can be
purchased in powder and liquid form. And yes, it is
often found in home flea control kits. However, we found that those households
that relied on it alone during flea
season, found it stopped working so well. Fleas were adapting. This was
in the Cordova Bay area of Victoria, BC. It is
not an effective miticide, and although it is registered for use on agricultural
crops, very rarely would a farmer use it for
mite control. I think carbaryl can be an effective component of a home
pest management program if used alternately
with other control methods. Diazinon is another chemical of similar status.
As for light leaks, your right, they will bud anyway. The difference will
be noted in yield and quality.
TOPIC - insecticide (sevin)
DATE - 02:51:41 1/11/100
FROM - rx
Dear Vic: What do you think of sevin dust? It is susposed to be harmless
to humans and pets. I have used used it in
the past as an effective curb for fleas, more currently, I have used sticky
fly paper for these critters. Sevin would also
be effective against whitefly and spider mites and most other pests.(IMO)
Also - How important is total darkness to initiate & promote flowering?
My feeling is they are going to flower when
the're ready and will flower even under 13 hour of light and with light
leaks during dark periods.
TOPIC -
DATE - 19:36:37 1/10/100
FROM - pi
hi guys and gals and all my old friends
happy ky 2 ya ;0)
anyone know where i can buy larger sizes of the hi quality coir? the kind
that is low in sodium?
TOPIC - the industry
DATE - 14:06:28 1/10/100
FROM - trelaway
I have some friends in media who I've been bugging to do a story on the
pot industry. I'm personally convinced that the
export MJ trade is supporting the British Columbia economy. Current estimates
rate it at a 2-4 billion dollars/year.
Given that fishing and forestry are in free fall, what else is there? Tourism?
Well.....
The spill over from this money influx can't long be ignored. Ever wonder
why BC hydro only goes after those who steal
power? Because it costs about 10 million dollars in electricity to grow
a billion dollars worth of pot. You pay yer bills,
they'll leave you alone.
I have a friend whose life fell apart years back due to coke use that turned
him into a dealer of the kilo variety. Cops
investigated him for a year and on the way to the cop shop they said had
it been green they wouldn't have wasted their
time.
I don't think this is entirely true but this episode occured ten years
ago and I think represents the attitude of British
Columbia's community. You couldn't, for example, grow a billion dollars
worth of pot in Nova Scotia or Alberta without
some tacit allowance by gov't/power companies/police.
TOPIC -
DATE - 12:05:15 1/10/100
FROM - Vic High
yep, avid will definately get the job done on any insect pest of cannabis.
But, imo, it's overkill. We need to learn from
our past mistkes. We have had wonder chemicals in the past that were like
the holy grail. Anyone remember that
wonderful pesticide called DDT? It was going to revolutionize the world,
wipe out malaria and all that shit. It was used
for everything under the sun. Naturally, two things happened. 1) the insects
adapted a resistence to it. 2) the
environment revolted and it became more of a threat than a cure. Using
avid to control something as simple as whitefly
in a small indoor garden is like using a neutron bomb where a BB gun will
be just as effective. A few drops of dishsoap
in water will kill the whitefly without risking the over use of our secret
weapon ;) Save the avid for where it's really
needed, IMO. Sorry G F for the harsh tone, this is something I'm passionate
about, haha.
BTW - isn't marijuana now BC's second largest industry? Even being illegal,
it's generating a shitload of tax revenue in
just the sales tax being collected, haha.
TOPIC - white flys
DATE - 09:30:39 1/10/100
FROM - Gentlemans Farmer
---will not Avid kill these critters since it is a systemic and attck the
nervous system? Or is that how that Avid works? If
mites eat the leaves or juices and dies, why not the white fly? ----Vic
clear this up for me would ya!
---shhhhh don`t tell anyone, but it`s the marj.trade that is keeping BC
alive and kicking. Don`t let the gov. get their
hands in the pot, ohh i kill myself! A few years ago is was estamated that
it is getting close to a multi million dollar a
year indusrty AND thats was just the 10% of the grow operations that they
knew about! Making it a billion dollar a year
industry. And you want to take that out of peoples pockets, i say fck em.
Sure half of the money is going to the BIG
BOYS but shit dick tracy, the other half is divided up among us peon`s
and i kinda like it!
TOPIC - Taxes ... a bad idea ... etc. etc.
DATE - 08:44:52 1/10/100
FROM - C.G.
Offering to pay taxes on weed is a bad idea. For one thing, it buys into
the notion of a "sin tax" - that's used to justify
higher taxes on alcohol and tobacco. Why cop to those sanctimonious idiots?
Taxing store purchases is one thing, but
taxation of home grow is quite another. Home brewers pay no taxes, and
neither do the makers of homemade wine ... .
( though I seem to recall that there is some nominal yearly tax that's
supposed to be paid but often ignored )
Remember, the first revolt against the American government was the Whiskey
Rebellion, when rural folks resisted
Federal taxes on home brewed whiskey. That revolt continues to this day.
Legalization of All drugs is, quite frankly, a pipe dream for Libertarians
that only clouds the issue of weed. I certainly
don't want coke and speed heads messing up on the highways or anywhere
else. Opiate heads would be OK. If given a
regular supply, all they want is more junk ... speed and coke heads want
to go out and Do stuff, and often hallucinate
in the process. They are a clear and present danger.
While there is something to be said for social Darwinism, it would take
a while for most of the speed and coke heads to
kill themselves off ... and they will undoubtedly take a lot of innocent
people along with them. It's just not worth it.
It's easier to push the envelope in the media ... they have an insatiable
appetite for the sensational ... and publicity
stunts are a great way to open up the debate. So, for example, whenever
an anti-pot activist makes an appearance,
show up with embarassing questions from the audience: "How many college
credits do you have in organic
chemistry?", "How many courses did you take in statistical analysis?",
"What are the names of the reffereed journals
where these "studies" have been published?" Police spokesmen are especially
vunerable to this line of questioning.
So much for the rant. I'm planning for the spring ... at the grass roots
level, planting pot is the most subversive thing we
can do.
TOPIC - tax marijuana
DATE - 03:36:18 1/10/100
FROM - rx
CG: The Gov of a western state (NM) is creating a controversy proposing
legalization of Marijuana. He had a look at the
bill from the penetentiary and decided the money would be better spent
(in part) building roads. Before politics, he was
a contractor. AND he thought he could raise additional money for roads
with a tax on marijuana. It is a very appealing
argument that you are going to shift a part of the tax burden to someone
else.
Boycott for a tax on marujuana. It has a ring to it! What do you think?
TOPIC - HELP FOR GARDENERS
DATE - 01:38:04 1/10/100
FROM - 2_BUDS
Go here for the experts.
http://2_BUDS.eboard.com/
Link: Help is here!
TOPIC - Various & Sundry
DATE - 18:31:43 1/09/100
FROM - C.G.
Boycott has a nice ring to it ... it also puts a zen-judo twist on the
situation ... doing by not doing ... so to speak.
Carefull targeting is essential ... a player in the beer industry might
be good start. Be sure to understand that no matter
how nifty the cause, any boycott must be Sold ... with a capital "S"...
to the public. The goal should be clear, and
reasonable ... the reasoning sound, the rhetoric polished, and the slogans
slick.
In the first place, a groundwork must be put in place ... a paper trail
... . Then, no matter what the targeted firm does
from then on ... we've formally given them the opportunity to respond and
comment and "play ball" with us well before
we drop the Boycott on them.
Where is the soft spot? How do we make them squirm? Well, for one thing,
actually hurting them in the pocketbook is
going to be very hard. It's good to aim high, but there should be a few
less obvious goals. A Boycott can and will create
a lot of publicity whether or not it's successful.
I'd like to take it directly to the enemy ... to their propaganda aparatus
... the "Partnership for a Drug Free America." If
the Partnership is such a wonderful cause, why should anyone want to hide
their support for such a worthy group?
So ... we demand that one of the major brewers admit to funding the Partnership,
and make public the amount and
duration. If not, we announce a boycott of their product. Dig it ... a
switch of beer brands is fairly easy for folks to do,
there are lots of alternatives out there ... .
Reason and science mean absolutely nothing in this struggle ... unfortunately.
Could it work?
Just curious.
TOPIC - New Westminster Hemp shop
DATE - 15:06:29 1/09/100
FROM - Vic High
Hey, I got an email from one of the proprietor of the hemp shop in New
Westminster. Anyone here have any dealings
with them? Any thoughts on their business? Any info would be appreciated,
thanks.
rx - really pissed??? hehe, I think you read more into my rant. Just relaying a twist look at reality ;)
Truth is, I tend to agree with Occam. It's hard to beat the organized crime organization we live under, hehe.
pizza - white flies are not really much of a problem in a grow room, not
much more than aphids anyway. You could
manually squish them in a small 1K garden. Good air movement will keep
them off balance. Safer's soap and most
other insecticides will kill them in larger gardens. After other pests
like mites and thrips, you should find whiteflies fairly
easy to deal with. They are usually more of a greenhouse pest.
TOPIC - lock stock ...etc
DATE - 12:39:01 1/09/100
FROM - irish
hehe, "copius amounts", soul, every time i see that movie i think of ot1
too... LOL
TOPIC - white flies
DATE - 07:45:44 1/09/100
FROM - pizza
after more investigating the little white bugs and a buddies help my plants
have white flies what is the best method to
get rid of the little begers
TOPIC - Auld Lang Syne
DATE - 05:45:36 1/09/100
FROM - Soul
Oldtimer_~ Sorry not to be in touch much lately. However I thought of you
last night while watching a video. Ever hear
of "Lock Stock & 2 Smoking Barrels"? Sting plays a small role in it.
Check it out, you'll laugh your arse off mate!
ACTIVISTS:
Most drugs ARE legal. The government's mistake is allowing SOME to be illegal.
If they can successfully regulate
trade in 99% of all drugs, plus alcohol and tobacco...isn't it a bit silly
to allow organised crime to regulate trade and
take enormous profits in the remaining drugs?
TOPIC - drug law reform
DATE - 03:40:06 1/09/100
FROM - rx
Sir ot1: Further thoughts on positive actions for drug reform have brought
me to consideration of a boycott by persons
who share the belief drugs should be legalized against products of industrialsts
who support current laws.
The internet could give the boycott (which has always been a powerful tool)
new vigor. If I have correctly analyzed
Dupont as the oldest lobby favoring current restrictions - they would seem
especially vulnerable to boycott. I'll bet they
sell products in Canada and in UK (all over the world). The current incapacity
of that company's figurehead might make
them especially sensitive.
The first step in a boycott is to communicate the threat of boycott; the
second step is to stop buying that company's
products. Believe me it's very effective. American companies have nightmares
about boycott. One man can boycott,
and it brings fear and loathing to the executive meeting table.
Vic is super pissed - he might like to organize such a boy cott.
I mark the 8th of January or the comming dark of the moon as an auspicious
time to begin the early crop. Days are
begining to lengthen.
TOPIC - politics, philosophy, and bullshi**
DATE - 01:46:43 1/09/100
FROM - rx
Dear Sir OT1: At last we agree on something, viz.,drugs should be legalized.
I have felt that way for thirty years and not
much has changed. Our challange is to make up an argument that will win
over the hearts of our legislators. teehee.
Despite every body who wants herb can and does get it, King cotton is thriving
as are synthetic fabric makers like
DuPont, and brewers and distillers, and last but not least the pharamacudical
companies, all are creating vast wealth
at the same time everybody who wants to get high is doing it, protectionism
for the foreging industries is unwarranted.
This argument should be made to the industries who are shelling out big
bucks to finance poitical campaigns. teehee.
Congress has proved over and again to me it is incapable escaping special
intrest influence and exercising independant
judgement based on reason and evidence. Buisnessmen are mindful of their
bottom line and they might stop buying
votes if they thought they could remain profitable even if herb was legalized.
Nobody likes to pay bribes and they are an
expense subtracting from the bottom line. Industry must be persuaded. Congress
is too far gone.
The alternative is for dopers to come up with more money than other special
intrests, and start buying some friends in
congress. Money talks, bullshitwalks.
Personally, I have no causes, but I am reminded of an Andy Warhol quote: "Life is politics."
Th
TOPIC -
DATE - 08:33:04 1/08/100
FROM - oldtimer1
Vic you should have mail the Maui servers seem fine now!
rx I think all drugs should be legalised, drug cartels can only exist when
what they produce is illegal! The whole black
economy only survives because the products are illegal. The more the government
tryís to suppress it the more money
there is to make out of the market. Well thats the way it looks to me,
looking in from the outside!
All the best Ot1
TOPIC - transnational misconceptions (philosophy)
DATE - 02:04:26 1/08/100
FROM - rx
Dear oocam: Despite draconian drug laws, not every american stands behind
their government in it's war on drugs. (Nor
on any other issue.)America is preeminiently engaged in reform. There is
terrific tension here as various groups activly
seek to win public approval of thier agendas. The noise is deafening. Canada
probably does'nt have race relations
problems. At the moment thre is a line drawn on the ground and the combatants
(White v. black v.hispanic v. natives v.
asians v. gays v. baptist v. catholics v jews. muslims and so on) are rolling
up their sleeves or have already begun low
level hostilities. Drug law reform is pushed to the back burner because
it is stigmatized as illegal and because few
people care or are effected by the laws since they are not generally enforced
against users. Trafficing is targeted.
Consensus seems to be the govt should protect its self and its people from
mexican and south american drug cartels. I
go along with that.
Meanwhile, I go along growing my little garden, unmolested except for paranoia.
It is a game with authority and gives
me a chance to ventilate my antiauthorityism in a relative harmless way.
Cultivating these plants builds character and
puts one in touch with natural rhythums. Building and maintaining a garden
(undetected) is a very creative thing.
I agree, God bless another day in paradise!
TOPIC - peat & perlite
DATE - 18:19:36 1/07/100
FROM - Hank Scorpio
trelaway- thanks for the safety tip :-)
TOPIC - grow shop sting
DATE - 15:19:46 1/07/100
FROM - arrooo
Vic: I have always been suspicious of grow shops. I never take my own car.
You can see the survelliance camera at
most any other buisness but, strangly, nowhere in sight in the grow shop.
Pretty sneaky, huh! I am also leery of the
welding shop ( co2). Fuzz can take a look at their demurage record at any
time even with out a warrant.
Frankly, I don't understand these moronic drug laws. Special intrests are
the answer and today the loudest special
intrest is the drug enforcement industry. Every police force and every
sheriffs office get supplemental income to staff an
antidrug force - extra prosecutors, bailiffs, judges, wardens, etc and
etc, tens of thousands of jobs trying to catch me
and you. It costs $40,000 per year to keep a prisoner in jail. Who gets
that money?Uniform police on the street are
more tolerant. Many smoke themselves and they know its keeping the lid
on their powder keg.
TOPIC -
DATE - 15:00:40 1/07/100
FROM - trelaway
hank--I've been buying plain peat for Vic's mix and have found you should
mix the peat at least 3:1 with perilite--less
than that and I had drainage issues.
I think the only real issue to canadian decrim of pot is our southern trading
partner. I think we're headed more toward
the way a-dam operates in that it'll be illegal but the busts and penalties
will progessively deteriorate.
Damn, I new Nova Scotia was scary from a pot perspective in that growing
was automatic jail time, but jail time for
possesion--shit, that sounds like texas in the seventies. Pot must be expensive
out east.
TOPIC - Peat Moss
DATE - 11:23:54 1/07/100
FROM - Hank Scorpio
Vic- Thanks for the info, Yes local Sphagnum Moss Peat is available here
in 100 litre bales,so will be giving it a go with
that,cheers again
TOPIC - a Proud Canadian...
DATE - 09:37:16 1/07/100
FROM - occam
Hi Vic & all... I agree that the form of democracy we practice here
in British Columbia and Canada is far from perfect,
but I'll take it over any other anywhere. I'll stay alert, pay my taxes,
put up with the pork, & keep smilin'.
Just another day in paradise...
TOPIC - truth
DATE - 09:20:09 1/07/100
FROM - cowboy
The truth is not spoken any clearer than right below this post,vic read
my thoughts exactly.Good thig he read my mind
and we didnt discuss it, because that would be conspiracy,he he he.
TOPIC - organised crime
DATE - 09:08:26 1/07/100
FROM - Vic High
villified citizen - I agree with you. I can't intelligently speak of other
regions, but I feel very comfortable saying that
governments of North America are really nothing more than organized crime.
They want to control the vices like cigs
and alcohol, and ban what they cannot control. They want you to pay protection
(taxes) and if you don't pay, you will
be destroyed. Most rights we think we have (like home ownership) are illusions
they create to keep us paying for our
protection, but the reality is that those are rights that they can and
will be taken away when it suites their needs. Or a
crime war causes the replacement of one organized crime organization with
another. Think there would still be home
ownership in North America if Russia won the cold war? We hold onto our
organized crime organisations to protect the
illusions of rights that these particular crime groups give. Otherwise,
they would have been gone long ago.
If rights such as land ownership were not an illusion, governments would
not be able to seize our lands when we didn't
pay property taxes. The land does not really belong to us despite what
is written on paper. We are only being given
access to it by the organized crime group in power.
A rare polital rant by Vic, haha.
TOPIC - Government and courts
DATE - 08:44:16 1/07/100
FROM - villified citizen
government and courts if you think about it use illegal/imoral tactics....you
dont follow OUR beliefs and we kidnap and
imprison you,if you have an income gov takes 1/3 not that i freely give
but it is taken,if you fight it gov will imprison
you,its called blackmail if i do it and kidnapping,go figure that the crooks
arent paying attention to voters.
villified citizen
TOPIC -
DATE - 08:02:24 1/07/100
FROM - Vic High
rx - almost missed ya. Yes, growing is still illegal here. Hell, if you
grow in your own home you risk loosing your house
just like in the US. We too have the tough laws. The only difference is
that our judges are helping us change the laws
by refusing to hand our harsh penalties. In addition, even our police force
as a whole doesn't agree with the laws
against cultivation to the point where the RCMP cheif (of all canada) has
recommended to parliment to decrim
cultivation and simple possession. Only group that is fighting change is
the government, but they are also giving in
slowly, they really don't have a choice, just trying to not piss off the
neighbors to the south too much, hehe. We are
each other's most important trade partners, hehe. I think The UK is the
other nation in the world making huge strides in
the legalization process. This while the rest of Europe (adam, spain, etc)
buckles under political pressure.
I think the world could use a few more state referendums like what california
and oregon pulled off. Which raises a
question I've had for a while. The US federal government has such a heavy
hand that they can stand up and ignore the
voting and wishes of individual states. But what if more than 50% of the
states voted for decrim? Will the US political
system still allow the feds to ignore state laws?
Which brings us back to Canada. Like I said previously, we still have the
harsh laws, and my previous comments about
relaxed judges was from a BC perspective. Each provincial court system
follows it's own path in deciding how far to
follow those laws. Nova Scotia is one of the scariest places in Canada
to smoke and grow. I have a friend from there
that did jail time because his parents found a joint in his bedroom. Fucking
twisted there on two fronts. First, parents
could rat out their son over a joint, and then that the courts would jail
him over it.
TOPIC - visiting grow shops
DATE - 07:59:04 1/07/100
FROM - funkdified
Usually when I go, I always park down the road and walk the items to my
car. Sunglasses and a hat are also useful
itmes. Especially seeing as I don't usually wear them any other time. I
have only had to drive up once for my initial
purcace of lights ferts etc. When I did, I used someone elses car whose
place I don't go over to that often. No point in
usung your best buddies car if you go over to his/her house all the time.
Unfortunately I am not able to find things such
as Earth Juice anywhere else, so I do have to visit. I think that in the
eyes of LEO quantity is everything. If you walk out
w/ a couple bottles of ferts you will be fine (with the exception of frequent
visits.) I make it a point to buy enough items
for a year whenever I have to go. With that in mind, it may pay to split
up large purchaces between shops. I personally
don't go through very much in the way of ferts. so I can get in and out
with minimal items/risk. As I am writing this I
have to chuckle a little. The amount of shit that we have to go through
to do this is amazing sometimes. I have been
doing it for long enough that growing seems like a harmless hobby to me.
Its amazing that those in DEAland gov't
group people like us with rapists and murders and then impose thier policies
upon other nations while threatining to
withold aid. While I realize that MJ isn't leagl in Canada, the attitude
there is much better toward growers. My (as I
cringe from having to say that) government may think that its the "moral
center for the world", but ignorance is bliss.
Well harvest time has just passed, so I think that its time for some fresh
blue skunk. Have a good weekend everyone.
Peace,
funkdified.
TOPIC - Drug Test
DATE - 07:46:32 1/07/100
FROM - W Thomas
I need some help. Over New Years, a friend gave me a sleeping pill that
I think may not have been a sleeping pill but
may have contained a hardcore drug. In 6 days I have a drug test for a
job interview. What can I do if i need to flush my
body of a major drug, what are the different remedies for the different
drugs?
SOS, Thank You
TOPIC -
DATE - 07:44:34 1/07/100
FROM - Vic High
chronic man- hey dude, not sure which recipe you followed. It is riskier
if you used manure in your soil mix, some
manures are hotter than others. Other than that, your seccess will be dependant
on your veg time. If it is too short
(less than 2 gal size pots) fresh soil will not have enough time to be
ready for 12/12 when you are.
I find it better to hack back my vegging plants if they get ahead of themselves.
Just prune so that you limit new growth
to 2-4 leaders depending on your growing style. I can hack vegging plants
back to 4-5" and within 10 days they will be
back up to 12-14" and almost touching the flos. After hacking, I just place
close to the flos. For prelim veg growth, my
flos outperform my 1000 watt MH everytime, not sure why.
Hank - the mixes I propose are nothing more than peat based soil mixes,
and therefore are quite light. Because there
is such a difference in weight between soil mixes, we almost always go
by volume. Even if you are buying a truckload,
hehe. I think a bale is 107 litres or 3.8 cu ft. I'll leave the rest of
the conversions to someone else. But one batch of soil
will fill 5 ten gal pots. One expensive alternative worth considering is
coir or coco fiber. I hear it can be reused a few
times without worry of it breaking down causing pH drift. I think you would
want to flush it really well between batches,
but may be worth a thought??? I think peat is a canadian product (at least
ours is) so maybe it's not available in your
area. If not, you will just have to adapt and find what works for your
area. And when you do, post it for others of your
area ;)
Trelaway - Blue Rose - that is a sweet spot huh? I got to get their info
and add them to BCGA. No website, but still a
great resource. Especially on a Sunday when your in a pinch.
TOPIC - heads up and thanks
DATE - 01:56:08 1/07/100
FROM - rx
Dear Vic: Thank you for the link to bugbee paper.(I read it twice)I appreciate
the time this and other posts took you. I
will continue to use soil because there is something whimsical about pot
growing in a pot and a jury might give a break
for whimsey. Staying small and non commercial are other keys to lenient
treatment, if one gets caught. Medical
neccessity and compassionate use are the wave of the future, my man!I believe
what I am doing is legal on this basis
but then so did mcwilliams and mccormick.
My techy tells me posts to a message board such as this are virtually untracable.
He, like my lawyer has been known
to be wrong, occassionaly.
I thought growing was legal in Canada because the seed sellers are open
and notorious. Do you have aright to a jury
trial in BC?
TOPIC - Super Soil
DATE - 21:00:50 1/06/100
FROM - Hank Scorpio
Hi
Am keen to give Vic's Super Soil a try but am wondering what to substitute
for the "sunshine mix#2 or promix" as I am
in the Southern Hemisphere and don't have those brands handy.
What should I look for instead?
Also what is the weight of "1 bale" of soil?
Mixes are sold by weight here,so there are many different sizes of "bale"
Thanks for any thoughts
TOPIC - local busts
DATE - 20:05:46 1/06/100
FROM - trelaway
I agree, people should take Vic's suggestions regarding hardware purchasng
seriously. I find many people too confident
of their safety from leo in this relatively lenient province.
The longer I grow the less I use grow shops--if you grow in dirt there
is nothing to be had from them that you can't get
elsewhere.
Another great nursery Vic mentioned a while back is en route to Duncan
called Blue Rose nurseries. It's on Hwy 1.
TOPIC - stunting plants vertical growth
DATE - 18:28:24 1/06/100
FROM - mr manhatten
can anybody tell me how to successfully keep a plant under four feet. i
have vegged my babies for about three weeks. i
want to veg for another seven weeks. my plants are in ten gallon bags.
obviously i shoul employ some form of pruning
techs, yet i have little experience with this.. i am perposly keeping light
levels low... 2k over 35 plants.. can i
successfully use stakes and string to manipulate plants to perform in a
horizontol manner.
TOPIC - Chronic: Super Soil
DATE - 18:27:22 1/06/100
FROM - sensi
Jah Mon! I've found that it's really best to let Vic's S.S. sit for 2 or
3 weeks, but.... you'll probably be OK especially in 5
gallon containers. It takes awhile for the Organic components to break
down and supply nutes to the plants, but in a
large container enough starts breaking down immediately to provide plants
with enough ferts. And it just gets better
and better as the weeks go by! And no pH meter required!
Over the Christmas Holidays some friends (and me)sampled identical plants
grown in Vic's S.S. and chemical nutes.
Hands down the super soil puff was the tastiest and smoothest fav (blind
test) among all who voted. Chalk up one for
us tree huggers ( hahaha). Go fer it!
TOPIC - Vic's Super soil.....
DATE - 15:36:54 1/06/100
FROM - chronic man
I have some of Vics Super soil that I just mixed up last night, and my
plants are dying to be transplanted. They are in
the quart size containers and I'm putting them into five gallon containers.
I'm wondering if it would be Ok to use the mix,
even though I just mixed it up last night. I know it's supposed to sit
for a week or two, but I'm wondering if it's all that
big of a deal. Any ideas?? I vaguely remember a discussion concerning this
topic, but I can't remember what the
answer was.
I sure do like the mix. The buds seemed fatter, and stinkier. Also the
taste was much better. One more thing that's
great about this mix, the plants take what nutrients they need. As long
as I give them plain water, I havent seen any
over or under fertilizing. When I first started, I added some Maxicrop,
and ended up burning them a little. It looked like a
Mg deficiency, and I then added epsom salts. That was a mistake. Ever since
then, I flushed with plain water, and This
mix has NO shortage of nutrients!! hehe
Peace
cHrOnIc man
TOPIC - NCGA/EW-chat
DATE - 13:53:40 1/06/100
FROM - Sammy
Hi
Anyone know what happened to EW-chat?
TOPIC - local heads up
DATE - 08:58:44 1/06/100
FROM - Vic High
This is about the local (lower Vancouver Island) cannabis grow investigations.
I've been mulling over this post for a few days trying to figure how much
info to share. I will hold back on a few points to
protect my identity just in case the wrong sorts are lurking.
As many of you know, I downsized my growroom in a big way about a year
back. In addition, I relocated around the
same time. One of the reasons for both is that I was getting increasing
suspicions that I was under investigation. Early
last summer, my suspicions were verified. Not as bad as it sounds, but
giving details could out me ;)
Anyway, I had a partner in operations when I was doing the large scale
project who handled all the business
transactions. His instincts also told him to shut down, so when we cleaned
house, he quit doing business for the most
part. Then last summer, when my suspicions were confirmed, I relayed the
info to him and he warned all his contacts
and then personally quit all activities altogether.
Over the christmas break, me and this ol friend hooked up and got caught
up with what's happening. His story was not
good though. He knows several growers who have been busted over the last
year. Many of these busted growers have
now proceeded far enough legally for the crown to have given full disclosure.
There has been two common bits of info
with each and every bust. First, every investigation involved grow shop
surveillance. They would write down your licence
plate, grab your address from the licence plate and then cross reference
with BC Hydro. If hydro useage looked higher
than the norm or suspicious to them, they would then take their investigation
further. Grow shop regulars would be
tailed whether they had a licence plate that checked out or not. And the
hydro useage of their "visits" checked out.
Anyway, if your shopping for grow supplies, be careful. Be creative. Try
to minimize your trips to the grow store. Most
items can be purchased elsewhere. Like buy your bulbs and ballasts at the
commercial lighting outlets like Allbrite
lighting on the corner of Cloverdale/Blanshard I think. All your medium
and fertilizer needs can be met at the nurseries
and/or agricultural outlets. For those organic, Bordens up near Quadra/Mckenzie
is a great resource. Cannor nurseries
up near Commonwealth pool is a great place for worm castings.
If you are working in bulk, a good place to buy pots, tools, and your biological
control agents is Westgrow on Garbally
(across from bus yard). Oh yeah, they also carry certain lab supplies like
pH pens ;) They cater to the landscapers
mostly. But if you deal with them, please keep in mind that they are mostly
wholesale and sell in lots, not individually.
Like when I buy plastic pots, they come in batches of like 40 or 50. Cheap,
so having a few extras isn't a bad thing,
hehe. They are also an inexpensive source of pro-mix, an alternative to
sunshine mix.
Back to growshops, sure, their industry specific advice is handly, but
look to the online advice first. And when visiting
the grow shop, never use your car. Hell, take a bus if what your buying
isn't too big, hehe. And finally, don't just visit
one grow shop, spread your business around. This will help reduce your
chance of being identified as a regular ;)
Most of us here (locals) have gardens too small for them to be interested
in busting, so most of us don't risk charges
being laid. But still, loosing your crop and maybe even equipment would
still suck.
When I confirmed my suspicions about being under investigation, I learned
a few things about how the local LEO
business works. Judges are working against the cops for the most part.
Cops know they don't have a hope in hell of
getting jailtime if the garden is smaller than 300 plants, so don't like
wasting their time (and paperwork) on gardens
smaller than this. Oh and their calculations of a garden's value (for sake
of court) is really quite realistic. Clones are
$20. One ft plants are worth $300, etc. That is unless they find evidence
of trafficing. Once you cross that line
(evidence wise) then they throw the book at you and calculate a garden's
value by the gram weight pricing structure. So
keep packaging elsewhere, along with scales and such.
Hope this helps someone out there :)
TOPIC - mauimail
DATE - 07:31:18 1/06/100
FROM - Vic High
lately I've been having a bitch of a time accessing my email at mauimail.
Maybe the private message feature at
Cannabis World would be a good backup for those trying to make contact.
TOPIC - white bugs
DATE - 22:57:58 1/05/100
FROM - Crystel
Pizza::small elongated white bug??.sounds like "thripts"
take a magnified glass annd gently touch the little critter with the tip
of another leaf, if it curls its abdomen up looking
like a small scorpion{really cool thing to see}
its a thript...YIKES!!!! this is what works for me.
in a 1 litre spray bottle,mix 1 tsp of garlic salt,1/2 tbs clear ivory
dish soap fill with water.
spray underside of every leaf"you need to be a little creative to do this
effectivly". DO NOT spray when lights are on. its
better if you can do this at the end of a light cycle.repeat in4-5 days,
rinse plants well 2 days later.if you can drop the
temp after you spray it will also slow down the bugs movement consideribly
making escape from the soap spray
difficult.this will kill the little buggers, but will not kill unhatched
eggs,hence the second application ,,,,good luck
TOPIC - Some newer flouro info ...
DATE - 14:25:44 1/05/100
FROM - C.G.
We recently contacted Philips via their tech hotline. ( 800-631-1259 &
800-752-2852 ) They faxed the spectra curves for
those 5000K and 3000K Alto-Advantage high lumen tubes. Neither of them
have bumps in the 475 or 675 nm range.
Both have big peaks at 444 nm, and the 5000K has a high hump from 444 nm
to about 625 nm. The 3000K tube has
lower levels overall, with a spike at 444nm and fairly low levels until
it gets to 550nm, and then has high levels between
550 and 655 nm after which it takes a dive.
I'm not sure how to post these charts ... but they make an interesting
comparison to the charts and info they sent for
the new Philips Agro-Light, which the company literature claims is "The
Most Efficient Indoor Light source for Growing
Plants". These only put out 1600 lumens, but have a life of 20,000 hours
( when turned on & off no more often than
once every three hours ). They chart a comparison of the curve for these
Agro-Lights with an "optimum growth
saturation" curve, which they describe as "the light level at which further
increases in intensity produces no increase in
plant growth".
They indicate that the photochrome enzyme occurs in two forms: one that
absorbs red light at the 660 nm peak, and
the other at the 735 nm peak. Even though both of the Alto Advantage lights
have some output at 660 nm, both are
about zilch at 735 nm. The Agro-Lights, on the other hand, have two big
spikes between 400 & 450 nm, and a long,
high, level between 550 nm and 750 nm.
Evidently, Philips did tests at the University of North Carolina comparing
these Agro-Lite's with a "wide spectrum plant
growth lamp" ( they don't identify it further ) and a combination of cool-white
and incandescent lamps. The results look
good, but the quality of the fax went downhill, and some of the numbers
are unclear. They also compared the Agro
tubes with greenhouse sunlight and the cool-white/incandescent combo.
Last year, I saw some herb grown from seed under the Alto-Advantage 3000K
lamps prior to being transplanted
outdoors. They evidently grew well, up to a foot tall. Whether these Agro
units would do better in this context, or even
for a full term indoor grow, is the Big Question, as well as how the combo
of 3000K and 5000K Alto's would do
compared to the Agro tubes.
It seems to be the way of the world ... every answer begets another question.
Does any of this ring a bell?
Just curious.
TOPIC - seed
DATE - 10:51:04 1/05/100
FROM - torsteinn eyfjord
hello how can i order som god seed pleas send me some informeison to me
tank you ste
TOPIC - when to harvest {permabake}
DATE - 01:37:11 1/05/100
FROM - rx
When plants are ready to harvest they stop growing. When they stop growing,
water consumption declines. Beside
browning, diminished water use signals time to harvest. I would wait 'till
growing halts before harvesting.
TOPIC - harvest time
DATE - 15:04:33 1/04/100
FROM - arrooo
Permabake - you are on the right track. You'll know it when you see it.
The magnifier might be helpful in keeping a
watch out for the dreaded spider mite. Good growing!
TOPIC - High Times / Forcade Trust & N.O.R.M.L.
DATE - 14:02:00 1/04/100
FROM - C.G.
Had a talk with a N.O.R.M.L. board member today and asked about those recent
postings that indicated the Forcade
Trust & High Times owed millions to NORML. Evidently it isn't quite
that simple.
Next month, the trustees of the Forcade Trust are scheduled to provide
a complete accounting to NORML. When that
information is evaluated, there will have to be some research done on the
laws and cases that govern trusts in the state
of N.Y.. For the time being, the board has voted to hang back and not jump
into an expensive legal battle before having
more facts at their disposal.
It might be that the trust itself has no assets aside from the stock in
the magazine, which, as per the instructions in
the trust document, were recently turned over to the long term employees
of the magazine.
It's evidently a tangled situation, and we'll just have to wait for it
to unfold.
TOPIC - Moon cycles to increase hair growth
DATE - 07:46:40 1/04/100
FROM - Gale LeVon
I need to know web sites that this information can be obtained for a report.
My grandmother was Creek and she
believed that there was a certain time to cut your hair for growth and
also to thicken the hair. In order to complete my
paper and prove its validity, I need additional information from you. My
report is not due until the end of the January
2000.
Thank you for your assistance!
TOPIC - sneaky's drying question
DATE - 01:29:12 1/04/100
FROM - rx
Dear sneaky - I put the freshly harvested buds in white paper bags which
i filch from the bakery. I put the bags in the
top of a lamp shade with the light bulb on. Every day or so I shake 'em
around. This method takes two or three days.
By no means is it the only way. Brown bags impart a sulpher taste.
That's a lot of light - far more than I have ever used. You just got to
experiment. If things get too hot or start to burn,
move the lights or shut the mh down.I use only hps for flowering. Plants
will tolerate higher temps than you might think
- up to 120 degrees F without damage, but they use a lot of water.
Geronimo and all the way and so on.
TOPIC - window of harvest?
DATE - 00:18:16 1/04/100
FROM - permabaked
Well i am going to be putting 12/12 on my skunk#1, What do i look for when
they are at the peak of harvest? i have
heard of getting a illuminated magnifier to look for what? also i heard
of waiting till 70-90 percent of the glands have
turned red? , Well when i hearvest which i hope to get 1lb which is the
best way to dry and cure it?
sorry for the newbie question i read the grow guides and got confused soo i through i'd see what ya guys do
thax
TOPIC - little white bugs& clone sprays
DATE - 22:24:23 1/03/100
FROM - pizza
I finally get rid of mites now ive noticed little white bugs sort of look
like catipillars will neems oil get rid of them if not
does anybody have any suggestions.also in Feb. hightimes they talk about
cloning sprayes has anybody used them i
like the idea of not haveing to use domes on my cloneing trays.but im alittle
scared to use these sprayes any
suggestions would be useful
TOPIC - new setup
DATE - 17:35:30 1/03/100
FROM - sneaky pete
Howdy Folks, I have a few questions regarding a friends setup. Flower room
is 5' x 8' x7' high, growing in a GH aeroflo2
30 (footprint 2.5' x 6' ) with 30 plant sites off to one side of room.
For light they have 2 Sunsystem VII 1000 watters (
each light has a 400mh & 600hps in one hood with separate power plugs)
right now only the metal halides are on. New
clones are vegging, and testing the viability of rooting cuttings in this
system just for fun. Temp is the mid to low 70's.
My question is how soon should they switch to the hps (they were thinking
after the stretch around 2 weeks after 12/12
) . Will they ever be able to give the plants all lights on, 2000 watts
in that space?, Can the plants take that intensity? (
if the heat can ever be controlled , air cool hood, etc.) or should they
just switch plugs to the hps for flowering. What
can they expect?
TOPIC - curious
DATE - 15:39:03 1/03/100
FROM - terrytune
I recieved some seeds from an Albertan of all people. The name he quoted
was Chery Bomb, some very nice looking
bud grown supposedly on Van island. I've got some started and going to
force them for outdoor clones [I think I have
enough time]Question-Does anybody know the strain,what I can expect, harvest
time, quantity per plant. Any general
information on the strain would be helpfull Thanks terrytune
TOPIC - pinching tops
DATE - 10:11:01 1/03/100
FROM - arrooo
Rx - did high see really answer your question? I pinch at the third internode
from the bottom to get double tops. My
experiment has shown double tops porduce x2 unpinched tops. Pinching at
the third internode will also bring off four
strong lateral branches which, it seems, would require the scrog support.
To bring out six laterals, pinch one internode
higher. Good growing!
TOPIC - High Times
DATE - 12:18:03 1/02/100
FROM - C.G.
We noticed a few interesting items in the February issue of H.T. .
On page 106, for the "Tip of the Month", "Kyle Kushman" plugs two seedbanks
with web sites, both of which are
relatively new, and both of which he states "you can trust": www.legendsseeds.com,
and ironseedsales.com
It seems a little strange to have newcomers getting this kind of play ...
especially since Mr. Kushman includes no
information at all about the two companies, why he believes them to be
trustworthy, or why he chose to give them a
free plug.
At best, the bit is filler, an excuse to publish another bud shot ( with
a caption that doesn't identify the strain or
associate the bud with either seed company ). At worst, it indicates an
ethical lapse by the editorial staff.
On the bright side, the Feb. issue has a "Great Fertilizer Experiment"
which compares the results of a grow with
several varieties of herb with several varieties of organic and chemical
fertilizers. Both yield and taste were noted, and
although the samples were fairly small, it's a good 1st step, and one that
should be followed up on in the future. (
Though I'll bet my stinky socks that H.T. didn't commission the piece,
and won't front a dime to support similar studies
in the future.)
Just for the record, those full page and fold-out ads for phony smoke in
HT are a profound embarassment to everyone
who smokes the herb. Advertising burn-bags to kiddies is a shamefull practice
that has gone on for much too long.
It's time that someone with the knowledge will write up an expose' of this
crap, and the dirt-bags who sell it. Maybe
Cannabis Culture will publish such a piece and help put an end to it. A
"smoke test" would be very informative, as
would some information on what kind of crap this stuff really is and how
cheap it is on the bulk botanical market.
Any volunteers?
Just curious.
TOPIC - Archaicfeel
DATE - 10:01:42 1/02/100
FROM - unengravedstone
, nice touch.
MrSoul,-********-~, sorry trouble lite'n that. &btw thanks for the
early remindr on geting tha outdoor year started.
especilly for us non riendear type for i forgt bing outaside sinse now
its still winter lookin sometimes outside. however,
is a good day today, and im feeling just like it w/ya.
thanks for all the , pithifo.,
sb,-********-~, d'wind-eye'roundya-yak.
ahlsyapens,-*********-~ Ö ..
TOPIC - Powdery Mildew
DATE - 06:03:16 1/02/100
FROM - MrSoul
sb_~ Highya buddy, I had some experience with PM too. Clean the flowering
room thoroughly after harvest and spray
with fungicide. Let the circ fans and exhaust fans run 24/7 for a couple
of days without plants. When you bring plants
back in to begin the next flowering cycle, space them to allow plenty of
air circulation...be especially vigilant not to let
leaves remain overlapped allowing moisture to be trapped. Keep the air
MOVING! A good rule of thumb is, "You should
NOT be able to light a joint in the room - way too windy". I run constant
exhaust plus three 16" oscillating fans on 24/7.
EVERY plant is swaying in the wind!
I just finished a grow with 1.25 plants/sqft and only in the center of
the grow where the air was stillest and colas were
leaning against each other did I see any PM...and there was only a HINT.
I found that PM, unlike gray mold, doesn't destroy the buds if you harvest
them & dry them ASAP...the PM simply
dries up along with the buddage instead of turning into a black, gooey
mess.
TOPIC - Y2K
DATE - 11:34:28 1/01/100
FROM - testing
is this script compatible?
TOPIC - duhhhhhh
DATE - 19:35:35 12/31/99
FROM - High-
who's stoned ... not me
sorry
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